Alternatives to Jungle IDE/Monk on the Mac?

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hobo(Posted 2012) [#1]
I currently prefer to use Jungle IDE on my PC but recently been on the move a lot and have had to use my Laptop which is a Mac and of course this means no Jungle.

Do people use anything specific when coding in Monkey on Mac? as using Monk is slowly destroying my will to live after PC Jungle goodness.

I also tried TextWrangler but not being able to hit F5 to 'run' is annoying.

Thanks for any suggestions.


NoOdle(Posted 2012) [#2]
TextMate is ok, TED's ok.. I am struggling to find something I like so I'm just going with TED, its in the box so to speak.


Shinkiro1(Posted 2012) [#3]
I know exactly what you mean with monk, don't waste your time with it.

http://www.gingerbeardman.com/monkey/
I would recommend Textmate, although Sublime is also pretty good.
Chose one, and stick with that.


GfK(Posted 2012) [#4]
This is exactly why I do 99% of the job on my PC, and only go over to the Mac when I need to start testing in simulators/iOS devices. Haven't used Ted yet but I just cannot get along with Monk (or MaxIDE for that matter). Too used to BLIde/JungleIDE.


ziggy(Posted 2012) [#5]
Just in case you have Parallels or something similar, Jungle Ide is lightweight enough to run on it. Otherwise, I have no idea what can be comparable on the Mac.


NoOdle(Posted 2012) [#6]
Is Parallels better than VMware? VM is a bit slow to start and close down and a little unresponsive at times... would be nice to find a better solution!


therevills(Posted 2012) [#7]
Does JungleIDE work with Wine/Crossover?


skid(Posted 2012) [#8]
Monk was officially discontinued months ago, what version of Monkey are you using???


ziggy(Posted 2012) [#9]
@therevills: It does not work with Wine as wine seems to be unable to allow the installation of .net 4. Haven't tried corssover but maybe someone can give it a try?


Samah(Posted 2012) [#10]
therevills: I couldn't get it working in crossover due to no .NET framework. I guess it'll have to be sublime text then.


AdamRedwoods(Posted 2012) [#11]
Monk is discontinued??? I can't use Ted, it is not compatible with wacom tablets.

p.s. is monk open source? anyone mind if I mod and github it?


skid(Posted 2012) [#12]
I have Wacom tablet, I will test Ted and see if we can get that fixed ASAP.


therevills(Posted 2012) [#13]
I'm not sure you can fix it Skid, its an internal issue with QT:

https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-6127


ziggy(Posted 2012) [#14]
I couldn't get it working in crossover due to no .NET framework.
They're working on .net 4 compatibility. Jungle Uses quite a bit of windows API too (apart from .net) so if they get .net to work on Mac using crossover, we'll have to test it a lot, but it would be nice to see it runnin on Mac.


skid(Posted 2012) [#15]
Hopefully we can just replace Ted's QtCore4.dll with a patched version using info from that thread.


TheRedFox(Posted 2012) [#16]
I do use JungleIDE on my Mac under VMWare Fusion 8. Works perfectly well.

The Mac is a MBP Mid 2009. I have 8 Megs of RAM and have given 2 to the Windows VM (WinXPSP3).

Sharing a folder between the VM and OSX works perfectly. So, one source tree and iOS and whatever targets are in the same location. This helps with the source control.


Neuro(Posted 2012) [#17]
I have low end 13in 2011 MBP, with 8gb ram using WinXP on VMWare Fusion also. While it does work, its not great when using Jungle. Perhaps i'm just not patient enough but i often find myself just using Ted whenever i use the Mac to code with Monkey - i don't like the other editors much for it. Otherwise, i just keep hauling this other beast around just so i can use Jungle.


ziggy(Posted 2012) [#18]
@Neuro: Disabling the "use advanced text lexed rendered" on the Monkey section of the Jungle Ide properties can make Jungle Ide perform a lot better in the scenario you're talking about.


Neuro(Posted 2012) [#19]
I just updated VMware Fusion to the latest version (1.5) and now Jungle IDE seems to perform a lot better, without having to disable anything. This is good...now i can just carry my little MacBook Pro around instead of that other monster.


TheRedFox(Posted 2012) [#20]
For what it is worth, I am also a Vim freak. So, coloring was provided by a kind soul on this forum and I am now trying to amend Exuberant-Ctags so that it works (somewhat) with Monkey code.

It is actually taking pieces of the Basic and Java/Class-based languages and merging them together, Frankenstein style. But if it works, it will be really cool for quick updates/changes.

You can't beat Vim on the split windows game :-)


Shanon(Posted 2012) [#21]
Dup


Shanon(Posted 2012) [#22]
I have a MacBook Pro retina and I run jungle on the latest VMware fusion. The thing I don't like is how it makes the computer run hotter and really clips the battery life. Just the nature of VM tech I guess. So I've sorta started turning to sublime which is my absolute favorite editor on the Mac. Someone needs to create a module for sublime to support the syntax and compile functions. I use it for coffeescript and the coffeescript module works perfectly like that.


Grey Alien(Posted 2012) [#23]
So apart from running windows on my Macbook Air there's no decent solution for a Mac IDE? That's a shame as I love Jungle. Not having auto-complete and ability to jump to definition is a real hassle in ted. Even a find in files would be useful.


skid(Posted 2012) [#24]
Monkey Sublime support files are detailed here:

http://www.monkeycoder.co.nz/Community/posts.php?topic=593


ziggy(Posted 2012) [#25]
By the way, if you want Jungle to be less battery consuming, you should turn off background compilation. this is very useful when coding, but takes a lot of CPU time wich can be easily avoided. This will prevent the computer from getting hot and it will allow longer battery life on laptops, even when used on a virtual machine.


thoast(Posted 2015) [#26]
Just found: "Mollusk IDE" http://www.grudlux.com/mollusk/

Features: http://www.grudlux.com/mollusk/features.htm

Demo is available. Will try it out sometime. At the moment im always switching to bootcamp win 7 for jungle ide..


skape(Posted 2015) [#27]
Also check out the "Super TED" JentosIDE (based off of TED)
http://fingerdev.com/apps/jentos/
or to compile a newer version yourself:
https://github.com/EnkiEA/Jentos_IDE

Jentos is also available on Linux, so that is nice as well.

Mollusk is very good as well (I mostly use Mollusk, though Jentos' autocomplete is a little better.) ;)