Soon you'll need a license to live stream on the Internet...?
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| So what with all the youtube nonsense going on. Seems like soon you'll need to a broadcasting licence in order to use twitch, if you don't you'll be considered "Pirate Radio". So yeah, German of all places if the first to do this. (Of course it would be Germany first) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpgDMYWDpNw The freedom of the Internet really is under attack from all angles now... |
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| I wonder if we will be back where we started in several years time: Like television - internet broadcasting will be the domain of the wealthy media corporations, cable television or 'paid' internet services will have a huge amount of additional media that is mostly garbage and the days of the 'wild west' where anyone could post videos online will be gone.....instead we will have mass produced international cr@p. |
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| It seems that since TV, Newspapers are dying. They can't innovate anymore, they're dying off, becoming irrelevant. The only way for them to survive is to try and kill off the future. They honestly think that if they kill what the young generation like, then they'll come back to the old stuff. They're sadly mistaken. |
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| With everything on the Internet it was entirely obvious that corporate interests would pressure government to carve up the Internet. All it will do is show everyone how out of touch government really is the Internet is meant to be a free place which allows everyone to participate no matter where they are. |
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| the Internet is meant to be a free place which allows everyone to participate no matter where they are And that's the problem, government, all governments don't want true freedom just the illusion of it. Look at the US lobby system for example where its legal for corporations to openly buy politician votes and shape their policy. i am taking my tin-foil hat of now. |
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| I heard a rumour that PewDiePie gets more daily views per day on his videos (all his videos combined) than all english speak media sites across the world even when combined. That fact alone must really freak them out (No wonder they make hit pieces on him) Right now this law seems to be only in German and with Twitch, but how long before it not only spreads to places like youtube but also other countries. And how about livestreams that recorded live and then just uploaded as movies, do they also count? Feels like a slippery slope doesn't it.... Next they'll go after Skype (even though the main stream media often uses it, often see it on news in Japan) |
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| to be honest Twitch/YouTube & other - from my point of view - are not the best way to represent 'internet' as they are 'broadcasting' content from one source to many... there's no interactivity at all, like with a TV set. Internet was born with other concepts & ideals. Question: how do you consider NetFlix? |
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| ..governments are puppet, just like many other things...in order to set things right in terms of freedom people talking about (not illusion of it served by governments), one must do only one thing..kill the banks.. |
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| This is exactly why I said a while ago already: We all have to move to Darknet to stop the take over by these type of media moguls/govs, but we(the free literate internet community/the people if you will) have to massively do it all at once together, for the Darknet is a nasty place and every one who's going there is under suspicion. If however everyone with some intellect does it too then it's way more difficult to stop/follow the move for 'them'. Mark my words: things will be getting worse.. especially if they're going to use more AI to follow people. |
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| Wow. It took the rest of the world almost a month to catch up with this? In Germany, there actually is a LEGAL foundation for the claim that the service/"program" in question -- which is not Twitch itself, but the Twitch channel PietSmietTV - qualifies as a broadcast program, and that is defined in §2 of the "Staatsvertrag für Rundfunk und Telemedien": http://www.die-medienanstalten.de/fileadmin/Download/Rechtsgrundlagen/Gesetze_aktuell/RStV_18.pdf A this point, if you can't speak or read German or find a correct translation, a meaningful discussion will be quite difficult -- translating the involved "legalese" is difficult, and the folks who made that YouTube video in the original post of this thread got A LOT wrong and that disqualifies that video. Based upon the legal definition of the "Staatsvertrag", and according to several German publications that dealt with the matter, YES, defining PietSmitTV as a "Rundfunkangebot" could be legally correct and the "Staatsvertrag" could actually be applicable to PietSmietTV -- meaning that PietSmietTV would require a broadcast license to operate in Germany. That's expensive, but not impossible to get. The "Staatsvertrag" also contains clauses and definitions that describe when it is NOT applicable. PietSmietTV would only need to adjust its program accordingly - or the way how they make it accessible - and the discussion would also be off the table. They "only" need to make it interactive enough so that the consumers can change the course of the program -- because the linear, non-interactive nature of Twitch is what turns it legally into something that is governed by the "Staatsvertrag für Rundfunk und Telemedien". It has absolutely NOTHING to do with censorship or with an attack on the Freedom of the Internet. MAYBE that specific "Staatsvertrag" is out-dated and should be re-evaluated, and the commission in charge admits as much - but also clearly states that unless the regulations and laws are not updated, they must apply the laws that currently exist. And guess what - even the founder of PietSmietTV publicly demonstrated an understanding for this decision and is investigating the available options to acquire a broadcast license. the Internet is meant to be a free place which allows everyone to participate no matter where they are If it weren't for the fact that the Internet originally was created as a computer network for the US military so that the various divisions of the armed forces could better co-ordinate their efforts and resources, this statement would almost be funny. |
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| I doubt anyone could implement anything like this due to the scarcity principle of human psychology (we place a higher value on an object that is scarce, and a lower value on those that are abundant). It also applies to freedoms and it's amplified even more if a population has already experienced a freedom to do something and then has that taken away via censorship/licensing; a huge value is put on that freedom they once had (because it is then interpreted as a scarce resource) which would cause a massive backlash. And that means easy votes to be won, so all parties would have to align with the population or lose an election. You can see this happen all the time, even if there's a hint of censorship people start going crazy (rightly so!). I think they will just keep going down the route of smear campaigns to force advertisers to pull funding from content creators and make it harder for them to make a living. And governments will keep trying to claim national security reasons and blame it all on Russia :) |
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| I thought the EU was supposed to have squashed those trying to remove net neutrality? |
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| And governments will keep trying to claim national security reasons and blame it all on Russia :) Speaking of which, since the attack on Syria, those Russian conspiracies seem to have suddenly died a death. It's as if it was never true in the first place. :) |
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| Speaking of which, since the attack on Syria, those Russian conspiracies seem to have suddenly died a death. It's as if it was never true in the first place. :) That's just what they want you to think / ;-) |
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| At xlsior - is that smiley face wearing a tinfoil hat {;-) ha ha ha |
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