My new 3D Printer

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RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#1]
Decided to get a 3D printer. I went with a Davinci 1.0a and flashed it with Repetier firmware.

Im enjoying it so far as a hobby tool. I have made a Mini Nes using Raspberry PI and emulation station, and I made the entire overworld for the original zelda on nes.. My printer is one color filament so I had to hand paint my overworld. Anyone else here using a 3D printer for fun?

For the Zelda overworld I first went into minecraft and remade the map from scratch.. It is about 95% accurate in terms of layout but I added height to it and widened some stair cases for printing purposes.



LINK TO MY OVERWORLD MAP PICTURES.
http://i.imgur.com/iGpVXCA.jpg?
http://i.imgur.com/GSIYRGV.jpg?
http://i.imgur.com/jzYn2dd.jpg?

ZELDA CLASSIC SCENES
http://i.imgur.com/brw4f31.jpg?

MINI NES. FULLY WORKING
http://i.imgur.com/i9EJ8NC.jpg?
http://i.imgur.com/3GTQgrq.jpg?


RustyKristi(Posted 2016) [#2]
Cool beans!


Derron(Posted 2016) [#3]
Your finger-ring looks line mine - but as I preferred the SNES, this wont be my case then.


bye
Ron


EOF(Posted 2016) [#4]
Mini NES looks sweet. Nice stuff!
We have a 3D printer at work and I sometimes need to design jigs to aid in assembly of products. I noticed some things to be aware of when creating 3D printed jigs:

1. Material - PLA for lightweight and accuracy or ABS for stronger items but subject to warping. Depends on the fill %
2. Accuracy - Our printer is very accurate in the vertical plane (down to 0.1mm) but for X and Y a greater acceptable level of tolerance is needed.
3. Time - Trying to rush-print causes ugly streaky-looking edges. Its better to lower the print time to get a nice quality finish.


Steve Elliott(Posted 2016) [#5]
Great stuff!


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#6]
Derron, Ya I have seen a few snes cases as well.

Jim, I havent used ABS yet. For my specific printer the best addition I added that greatly affected print quality was an additional 12v fan with printed blower assembly added to the hot end.


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#7]
@rifRaf, thats is most truly awesome, I've been toying with the idea of selling my motorbike - I think I've found a reason to now!

I'm really impressed with your print of Zelda overworld - can I ask how many separate print 'jobs' were required to print the whole world? Thanks, and much respect for having the best peripheral I've seen in a long time ;)


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#8]
BP,

the world map is 3 prints. each minecraft block was exported as 1.75mm cube using mineways exporter, as you may know the NES Zelda map is 256x88 cells in size. My map is a few cells larger to accommodate a border so each section I printed was about 85x85 cells, or 149mm x 149mm in real size.

Each print took between 7 and 9 hours, this is typical of a dense model of that size. 3D printing is not fast but large prints can go overnight and the wait is not so bad. The funnest part was hand painting. Since this print I have edited my minecraft map a few times in ways that would make the print look better and may make a version 2.0 at some point.


Guy Fawkes(Posted 2016) [#9]
AWESOME MAN! I LOVE the map! <3

~GF


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#10]
@Rif Raf, I've wondered about the complexities of exporting from a B3D rendered environment to real world objects, interesting stuff. I appreciate you've went minecraft -> 3D prints, exciting stuff !


(tu) ENAY(Posted 2016) [#11]
Absolutely awesome. I'm wondering myself in maybe 10 or 20 years when 3D printers became cheap enough. That entire construction industries might practically go out of business. I mean, if you can make your 3D cases for things, toys and sculptures and the like why bother to buy toys when you can make your own? :)


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#12]
BP,

Im pretty certain there are some OBJ exporters in the code archives.. Many 3D printer slicers can import STL, and OBJ. If you already have a B3D exporter working there are other programs like ultimate unwrap3d that can load b3d and export obj

Enay,

I would not be surprised if in the next 10 years they are as common as inkjet printers are today.

The color 3D printers that use either powder or standard printing paper to print tiny layers in color and glue them together are pretty cool but 25k 'ish USD.


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#13]
@RifRaf, thanks for the additional feedback - I've had a copy of ultimate unwrap 3D in the past (my XP machine seems to have bit the dust - ah well, that'll be storing it in the garage I suppose.) 25K is a little outa my remit - but all my motorbike's been doing of late is gathering rust at the bottom of the garden. Time to kiss her goodbye me thinks, 410 quid will get me one of your eloquent 3d printers ;)


Ian Thompson(Posted 2016) [#14]
Must resist purchasing one too... :D

Seriously, they look great, may'be one day.


TomToad(Posted 2016) [#15]
@RifRef and Blitzplotter
I have an .stl exporter in the code archives. It will take any Blitz3D entity and export it to .stl format most commonly used with 3d printer slicing programs. I was trying to make a cad program similar to OpenSCad, but never got around to starting it (other than making the exporter).


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#16]
@TomToad, thanks for sharing ;)


xlsior(Posted 2016) [#17]
So.. What's the actual cost in materials to print these kind of things?


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#18]
The way I see it is the time is money... Whilst I'd love to have the time to realise some of the 3d entities I've rendered in the 'real world' using clay/plasticine etc, being able to accurately 'print' out 3D things that have 'come' from real world data (in my case GPS data) really excites me.

More so than riding my motorbike, and tbh the risk outweighs the fun factor... maybe boring but certainly not risk adverse. So, goodbye motorbike - hello 3D printer ;)


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#19]
A 1 kg spool is about 18 USD. I could print the zelda map MANY times with that. It really goes a long way for hobby and prototype use. The prints I showed above cost between 4 and 5 USD to make all together. It suppose it could be costly to try to use a desktop 3D printer for any type of mass production.


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#20]
A 1 kg spool is about 18 USD. I could print the zelda map MANY times with that. It really goes a long way for hobby and prototype use. The prints I showed above cost between 4 and 5 USD to make all together. It suppose it could be costly to try to use a desktop 3D printer for any type of mass production.


Awesome ;)


xlsior(Posted 2016) [#21]
(And of course, you can save materials by designing objects to be (paertially) hollow rather than solid)


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#22]
bored so I decided to make a few scenes from the original as well.
here is one.

http://i.imgur.com/brw4f31.jpg?


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#23]
Working on a higher res version of my minecraft map.
with the old map, one zelda tile = one minecraft brick

http://i.imgur.com/QeS9B7o.jpg?

New one is a work in progress. twice the size 1 zelda tile = 4 minecraft bricks. This does allow for a lot more creativity in intepreting the map into a 3d environment. The white parts at ground level are snow layers. Since the map is for 3D printing the loss of color for using snow layers is outweighed by the 8 bit height control you get using them.

http://i.imgur.com/wZaeajo.jpg?


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#24]
Oh my, big project - good luck with it, looking forward to the results.

I'd still love a 3D printer, maybe in 2020 ;)


Panno(Posted 2016) [#25]
like your stuff !!



its mine :)


Pingus(Posted 2016) [#26]
@Panno, what printer do you use ?
There are very cheap printers on chinese sites, I wonder what quality we can expect from them...


Panno(Posted 2016) [#27]
@Pingus

i use this


https://www.germanreprap.com/produkte/3d-drucker/protos/


gpete(Posted 2016) [#28]
Looked up Panno's printer- $9000 US....


Derron(Posted 2016) [#29]
PRotos 3d is a "build your own 3d printer"-kit.

Costs are about 700-800 Euro.
http://de.camelcamelcamel.com/GERMAN-REPRAP-PROTOS-3D-DRUCKER-KOMPLETTBAUSATZ/product/B00ICKG77K



bye
ron


Richard Betson(Posted 2016) [#30]
I've seen this Anet printer for about $180.00 (US) :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_TYzy5YQTI


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#31]
@Richard, thats VERY impressive for the price, very well presented too ;) I wonder if Santa can fit one in his sleigh for the christmas break - probably not if the post office is on strike ;)


RifRaf(Posted 2016) [#32]
I saw a 99 dollar 0.1 mm layer printer recently, if I can find it again ill post link.

Heres a steam award I made for my son, with his callsign on it. Ill probably make another one though as im not happy with my paint job..

I used this picture to make it from.
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Me783cb214197502eba99caa2a0f65e5co0&pid=15.1?

heres mine
http://i.imgur.com/UYQBuEw.jpg?


Derron(Posted 2016) [#33]
And I have read "BroHenClaw" :-)


I created a "toon bomb on a podest"-model some days ago - for someone owning a printer ;-)


https://forum.bombzone.de/index.php/Thread/69-stl-Files-f%C3%BCr-3D-Drucker/?pageNo=1


It really made me think twice to buy such a "construct you own 3d printer kit". But then I would only use it a bunch of times until it sits their waiting to get buried below dust. And it occupies so much space ...space a poor mans computer room does not have ;-)


bye
Ron


Blitzplotter(Posted 2016) [#34]
@Derron, yeah I see your point, love the toon bomb. At $180, I see that 3D printer kind of a 'adult' Lego kit - which when finished prints 3D stuff. Around 5 hours to build sounds like a small challenge, I'm not sure mine would just gather dust. I keep thinking of selling my motorbike to fund one - just my insurance for the year would fund a $180 3D printer ;)


Derron(Posted 2016) [#35]
These 180 dollar printers need a lot of tuning and attention until they work to your satisfaction. Replacing something here adding a cooler fan there (so the things are cooler...hardening faster and so on). Nonetheless prices of the fixed printer are still lower than of a ready to use "pro"-package.

At least this is what all these blogs/reviews write.


Bye
Ron