Simple shadows
Community Forums/Showcase/Simple shadows
| ||
 Hey everybody.... This was really put together thanks to me losing my medication for a few days... I can't find my antidepressants and felt really useless... so I put this together... It's nothing mindblowing... but I'm gonna release the code for free... I dunno if it will have any intrest considering how we're now accesing volumetric shadows and stuff... but I'd like to think this could at least help beginners. I have the basics working... but I can't get the shadows to fade using its vertexalpha... I'll probably ask alot of questions in the blitz3d forum... but I hope I get it done soon... I hope there is some intrest... but I guess it's pretty dated stuff -Kev |
| ||
| Reminds me of the way many PS2 games do it....do the shadows actually cast onto the walls as well, or do they stretch beyond comprehension on them? |
| ||
| That model is ace. |
| ||
| Mmm, Cobra will have shadows built-in. Can't wait - ready to burst. |
| ||
| Puki: Yeah... I know the feeling... I want Cobra now!!! John Pickford: Thanx alot :D I wanna get more into 3d modeling, this was a quick one I shoved together to test coding Genexi2: Ooops... I should of posted a differant screenshot... They do cast onto walls and sit on meshes... I'm going to do a little decal system some time soon... so bullet holes and blood wraps around walls... (will also be free of course) Here's a better screenshot:  that wierd lil green thingy was my light source |
| ||
| looks good so far. go on! |
| ||
| very good i am very interested to see how this is done hope you code is easy to read, im rubbish when it comes to this stuff. Pete |
| ||
| Ah, they do cast on walls - even better. Well, if you release the code then others may be able to improve it. |
| ||
| That's looking great so far! Now you only need to lower the opaqueness (see my answer in the blitz3d section) and probably blur the contour (eg. by using 2 layers with small offset, or multitexturing and a small offset in one of the textures position) |
| ||
| nice work! ps: http://www.blitzbasic.com/logs/userlog.php?user=8270&log=660 |
| ||
| YAY!!!! I figured it out :D hehehe... I got fraustrated and just started playing with the textureblends and entityblends... I tried entityblend 2 and textureblend 3... and I noticed that the mesh just went invisable... at first I was like "wow... that's useless..." but it turn out that's the right one... lol... the reason it was invisible was because the entitycolor (in this case vertexcolor) must at default be set at like 255,255,255 or something... but it's visable below that... pretty nifty :D I'll update ASAP |
| ||
| great i look forward to it! Pete |
| ||
 Here is that quick demo Scene I've been using, but with two light sources... (you can have more of course!... but two active ones seems like a good test) I just made the shadows transparent... Still more glitches to work through... but it should be released soon... all free open source of course :D |
| ||
| Devils child: That's exaclty what I was talking about... infact I was thinking of your work... amazing stuff! Definatley bringing blitz3d fowards in the world :D |
| ||
| great progress! can't wait :) I wonder how you determine the texel positions on a texture that is applied to a shadow mesh that needs to use underlying vertices. |
| ||
| Thats actually pretty good for a game that doesn't demand complex shadows. But can you please get a new model to test with? PLEASE! I know its just for testing but it makes my eyes bleed! |
| ||
| No way man, those models own! Reminds me of the good ol' days when UVW maps were non existant. I'd take a complex object textured with a single planar map over any of this 'unreal' stuff any day! :] |
| ||
| I like the model, too, in a "so bad it's good" way. If I were trapped in a doorless, gray courtyard with harsh lights shining down on me, I'd feel like that model looks. Everything is consistently, wonderfully bleak. :) And the shadows look pretty spiffy, too (a bit blocky, but that's for speed no doubt). |
| ||
| nice, you know what? because you're doing this for free, I'll let you use my old 'balchak' model, which has full animation and stuff. I'll send you the animation sequence code if you need it too. http://hnphan.com/downloads/balchak.zip |
| ||
| Eww, it has...a winky! Just kidding, that's an awesome model and animation job there... |
| ||
| you sound like someone who never saw one! eheh, just kidding man |
| ||
| heh, you stared at it!! |
| ||
| Never seen one on a bull-demon-evil-thing before, at least... I'm used to seeing gender-neutral demons in Doom 3... |
| ||
| any news about the shadow system? |
| ||
| Oh hey there people... Erm... My computer sorta died <_< >_> so my work is sort of halted for a while... sorry peoples... I'm using a tafe computer right now |
| ||
| Hey man, sorry to hear about your computer! That sucks...hope you get back up and running soon! |
| ||
| arrgh - happened to me too some time ago. Feels as if a part of you is dieing +_+ - but take it easy, there's reincarnation. And make sure to backup your files (I hope your harddrive is not damaged). BTW: Attention: don't install a new windows with your old harddrive plugged in, even when it's a secondary non master drive, even when it's a hidden partition. Windows will productively format everything and not only the boot drive! So you should completely unplug it during installation. |
| ||
| Hey Kalisme, how you getting on rebuilding your shadow engine, of all the atempts I've seen over the past 12 months yours was IMHO the most promising. Hope your still working on it. |
| ||
| Yes this looks very promising, I hope its not dead. |
| ||
| Oh hey there people! I was pretty happy to see people actually commented about this... sorry about the big halt... my computer died and I was computerless for months!!! :( but I got a new pc a week ago, and I stayed up late yesterday and got alot of work done on the engine... I hope you guys find it useful :) Thanks for the kind words, and thank you TONS to Tigerz... the new shadow demo uses your model... it helped bring some big flaws in my engine to my attention. here's a screenshot: (well... 2 screenshots cropped)  so here are the links: my shadow library: (all code included... but still needs work) http://www.filelodge.com/files/room17/427152/showcase%20shadows.zip and a look at the wrapping decal system I'm also currently working on: http://www.filelodge.com/files/room17/427152/deKAL%20demo.zip I hope you like :D |
| ||
| Downloading now. 8.9 kb/sec, this is painfully slow to download. |
| ||
| That ran smoothly and looked great, not sure what framerate i was getting though. Keep up the good work Kalisme, although this looked complete as it is. |
| ||
| Lots of popup spam there, but the screenie looks great. Downloaded, will watch the code later. Thanks a lot for sharing! |
| ||
| hey great work man!! i admire your shadow system :) since i never get textured shadows to work(only stencils) :D hey, i got a few ideas for you: for example this http://www.blitzbasic.com/codearcs/codearcs.php?code=754 blurs a texture very fast! maybee you can take use of it :) |
| ||
| I haven't started a "known bugs" log yet... There are many many many problems with this early code... I hope to fix as many as I can... But if anyone wants to use this code and/or improve it. I'd be happy for the attention. One thing I REALLY want help with is blurring... if someone could add a blurring option... well... YAY!!! hey, we could make a shadow system together!! how about some sort of team?? i made a team with daredevil for our shadow system, too. so why don't we make one and improve it? agree? |
| ||
| The downloads don't work here... just keeps going back to the start page when you click the links. |
| ||
| Devils child: that sounds great! but I have to warn you, I'm currently working at home, but using the TAFEs computers internet... (none at home for now :( ) so it might be sorta wierd waiting for responces. BlitzSupport: I just downloaded "showcase shadows.zip"... the link should take you to an annoying "pop-up" looking page with adds and a link to the download... you click that and it should show a page with ANOTHER add on it... click on the link to my file and it should download. hmm... yeah, that sounds really annoying... but it's not as bad as I make it out. Hopefully that works :) |
| ||
| well, we'll see, but first i have to check out the code. makes strange things... |
| ||
| ..when I tried to run source sample SCENE.BB, I got 'Function Tribox not found' error..is there some decls file missing?? |
| ||
| yes, you must download the tribox dll and put it into your userlibs folder :) |
| ||
| tribox.dll is in userlibs folder but error message is still same...so? |
| ||
| [quote]put it into your userlibs folder[/qoute] including the decls file... |
| ||
| Not work for me too but You can delete line: If triBox(bank) = 1 (+ EndIf too) then run program. What is tribox.dll and how can i make decls file? I tried: .lib "tribox.dll" TriBox%(bank):"_triBox@4" Not work. [EDIT] Ok. I have the link :) http://www.blitzbasic.com/codearcs/codearcs.php?code=1191 |
| ||
| Link you post doesnt work nothing except opening new window each time I click on it..anyone can post link for this DECLS file as well as corresponding DLL? |
| ||
| In the code archives one, copy and past into your browser directly and it will work...not quite sure why. |
| ||
| i have enough webspace. soon, i will upload all his broken links! |
| ||
| Copy tribox.dll from showcase shadows.zip to userlib folder, make new decls file: tribox.decls and paste: .lib "tribox.dll" triBox%(bank*):"triBox@4" Save. :) |
| ||
| kalisme: i guess you speak english very good, so please get skype on www.skype.com and lets talk about the shadow system. because maybee it is better if we work togehter... |
| ||
| Maybe some of you have problems downloading the zipfile cause your browsers suppress referrer information? I often seen this with free webspace providers. BTW putting a copy of a dDLL to the userlibs folder is not such a good idea since you won't be able to release your program together with the userlibs folder (that is inside the blitz install folder!). Copying the DLL to the folder of your main sourcecode file should work too. |
| ||
| Devils Child: i guess you speak english very good, so please get skype on www.skype.com and lets talk about the shadow system. because maybee it is better if we work togehter... erm.. I'd love to, but like I said, I'm using the Tafe computers for all my net browsing... So I don't get much time to upload, download and chat... currently I'm looking for a new house... so I don't get much time... hopefully no offence taken, I'd love to work with you. I sent you an Email with an attachment of the newest download of my library. Hopefully it helps explain how it works. Thankyou for everyone who has been showing intrest. I'm going to be working on some better code demos for the system this weekend. I've fixed the blurring... Im pretty happy with the progress so far... but it still needs work... I REALLY need to learn about culling the faces that have normals pointing in the wrong direction... hehe... I'm simple I guess |
| ||
| this is nice and easy to use lib Kalisme..I'll keep my eye on you :)) MD2 support will be nice.. :)) |
| ||
| of course i dont take offense :) well...as soon is i'm home, i will check out your code. #btw: you are creating clipplanes NOT using clip planes.can you make it work with clip planes? i remember that sswift was showing off his frustrum culling library in the forums... maybee it is worth taking a look on it:) cya! |
| ||
| I just posted a new entry to my worklog and my website... a four part tutorial on placing my library into a scene. here is the link: http://www.filelodge.com/files/room17/427152/demonstration.zip it uses that viking dwarf model that you find in most blitz tech demos.... hope that my tutorial helps. Devils child: I just wrote a note down to look into clip planes... I hope I can get my head around it. |
| ||
| i hope so, too. because i didn't. btw: i have been talking about that one: http://blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=52079 cu |
   |