Granada Racer
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Hi friends. Granada Racer is near finished, and i want to show you some videos. It is a full commercial racing game developed in Blitz3D + ODE + Raknet. Videos: www.granadaracer.com/grdivx1.avi www.granadaracer.com/grdivx2.avi Web (Only Welcome Screen): www.granadaracer.com Features: - On Line Racing on a REAL CITY (Granada in Spain) - Racing-RPG (4 classes, with attributes) - Up to 8 players at the same time - online Traffic - More than 10 tracks - 3 Modes of play Lot of fun :) Hope you like it. |
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Seet Jesus! Woah. There goes my title! :P Congrats! It look's fantastic. (I don't see how on earth you've amanged to get some of that stuff working!) Bugger. This one makes my engine look a lot less shiny :( |
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Some manufacturers might be a bit miffed at you using their vehicles, unless of course you have licensed them. Looks good though. 8-) When can we expect a demo version? |
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I have bought or own-made every vehicle in the game, so they are all licensed. Thanks for your comments, very very much appreciated. Lot of work under the game. The demo will be available soon, one month before the final release. I could release a demo now, but i don't have time to make a good one, yet. P.D: The screens on the web are pre-rendered. (but very very similar to in-game screens) And the game is running at 120FPS on 800x600 screens with 8 cars. |
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KuRiX, I'm afraid thats not what he meant. Peugeot may not be happy about you using a model of the Peugeot, even though you made it, it's still their car. I was going to post about that. You'll need to get peugeot to allow you to use the models. It does look great though! And the game is running at 120FPS on 800x600 screens with 8 cars. Dude, thats depressing me! :P |
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I dont doubt the models are yours or paid for, but what about the car manufacturers. BMW for instance are rather picky about people using stuff that is thiers. Right down to stopping companies using the word "Mini" in their names. |
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But then... when i go to an online shop, and buy some models of cars that says: "license for commercial games", and i pay for that... can i use them? |
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Not necesarily.. I'm sorry to worry you, but that means the people who made the models allows you to use that art asset in a comercial title, and not that BMW/Renault/Peugeot allow you that use. You will still need to get the manufacturers to agree you can use them. |
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Mmm, that's a problem indeed. perhaps i should change some aspects of the car and call them: Renoult, BMZ, and Peugeat... xDD (just kidding) And what does it mean "Royalty Free"? |
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RENO, PERJO, VMW. :P It may be worth you sending a few emails. A few manufacturers may actually say yes. What's the worse that could happen? (Just.. don't release it and then ask after :P) |
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Mmm, thanks, guys, i will check it. But then, the shops selling the models, are doing something illegal too? |
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"Royalty Free" means the creator of the artwork won't take a cut of your profit. |
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Hello. Hmmm, interesting. Do people whose houses are shown in films and TV shows get a fee paid to them? What about when a car is shown passing by in a TV show? In the same way that celebrities give up their right to their image when they start whoring themselves to newspapers, why doesn't the same apply to manufactured goods? (By the way, I'm not expecting a serious debate here because of the 'That's just the way it is' argument, but I just like to wonder out loud sometimes) Goodbye. |
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That looks pretty good Kurix .. what' physics engine are you using under the hood? |
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It is ODE, own wrapper and lot of tweaking... |
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and lot of tweaking... Don't I know that feeling!! |
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Don't we all! :P |
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i'd have to agree about the licensing thing here with the cars... some of the manufacturers would definitely have a problem when they saw your use of not only their copyrighted designs, names, emblems, and logos... but might also object to seeing their trademarks portrayed in a scenes that might be construed as their endorsements of using their vehicles in a reckless manner... of course, if you get their permission (in writing) then you are free to use em... but in all likelyhood they're gonna want to see just how their vehicles are being portrayed in the game... of that i am sure (well, 88% sure)... maybe you can approach them from an advertisement point of view... ya know, offer to include some of their ads in the scenery... and a link to their web site... maybe that'll help... anyway... getting back to the dev side of things... yes, the entire game looks stunning, great job... btw, which version of FRAPS did you use for the capture, the demo or a licensed version... i ask because my results with the demo version have been choppy and the quality not so hot... again, this looks great... good luck with it... you're sure to sell quite a few licenses... --Mike |
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It is the demo version of FRAPS, captured at full screen and then resized and compressed to divx. I think that the bad quality of the video looks like a good filter for the game xDDD Thanks for all the comments about the licensing. I have talked with one of the model's shop, and they have told me that i will have no problems with their models :S. Anyway, i will talk to the manufacturers. |
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Best bet is to do so. The shop can't give you permission to use BMW's IP ect. |
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I worked on a couple of hotwheels games, and that was a nightmare for licencing where the car manufacturers go. Cost a lot of money, and were talking toy cars based on real cars. In the end we mostly used made up hotwheels designs with a couple of commercial vehicles. Was really cool that hotwheels made a couple of our designs into actual cars that came with the game. Fortunately the games sold well over 400,000 copies each within the first two years :) |
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Oh how sweet it would be to make a game like that! |
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400,000 copies !!! Awesome! |
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Great work so far Kuri :) I wish you the best of luck with it! |
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I think you can make look a likes ... just as long as you don't use the name it doesn't matter. Tons of games do that ... they have cars which are knockoffs but they just don't use the name of the actual car. |
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yup, I remember playing some games where the cars looked the same but were called something totally different. Remove all badges from the cars too. |
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I saw a coka-cola advert in their too. They'd probably kick up a fuss about that. Looks great though |
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I didn't need all the billboards of coca-cola to buy their product. Just have to look at the many empties on my desk. |
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Hehe, we are managing to get sponsors, so we make some money before releasing the game! Some of them are: Coca-cola, burguer king, local banks, ... Today i have finished the analog control, so you can play with real analog joysticks. Tomorrow i will add force feedback support :D Now, time to sleep... |
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hey, when you wake up... how did you go about securing the sponsorship from the coca-cola company and burger king... how, how, HOWWWW!!!! :) --Mike |
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You gonna stick a cola sign on the side of your sub Red?! ;) |
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Hehe. Well, the maps are my real city. You can see every shop, every tree, every place of Granada (in Spain). So here, every local company is very very interested. We just talk to the local director of some companies, and they are going to sponsor all the publicity of the game. I think that although the game doesn't have last generation graphics, it has a full real city to race! and don't forget it is a racing-rpg, you get experience and levels for winning other people. So we hope we will sell some licenses... :D |
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That sounds cool. how did you go about securing the sponsorship from the coca-cola company and burger king... Fixed it for you... (sorry for the hijack) |
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Kurix, that's amazing, really. I hope there's a demo soon |
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hahahahahaaaaaaaa... all i can say is... da da dada daaaa... i'm luvin' it! Kurix... don't worry about the graphics too much, it looks verrrrry good from the vid clips, that's not gonna be a problem at all... as for the sponsorship thing... thanks for the info... i gotta get some real cash flow going, and on the side i had whipped up this lil tourist sub adventure thing... and i'd luv to have a few coke, jeans, cell phones, ads splattered all over the waiting areas, maybe a few vending machines, whatever it takes :) --Mike |
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Today i have been in a small conference about Granada Racer and Game Developing here in Granada. Someone recorded one little video (i am the guy with in red near the screen). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAFu0rkPSqI Cheers! |
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I actually wonder if its legal to make a model of a sports car and sell that model? - would this not also require a license? Assuming the model represents something that is instantly recognisable as belonging to a specific company..for example, if i modeled the "Bitmap bros" logo, could i really expect to sell it? - and even if selling the model was legal, would i not have to clearly state that the design is a direct copy of an existing company logo and that before it can be used -permission should be sought. anyway regardless of law - i dont think models that represent copyrighted material - should be sold without express permission from the copyright owners..if you make a model like this, it should be public domain, and should still state ownership.. bleh bleh bleh...anyway, anyway looks cool - ignore me ;) |
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I guess I am the only one who clicked on this link expecting a game where you race Ford Granadas around? |
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hehe, i don't have that model in my game :D The game is ambiented in the real city of Granada, is Spain. |
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Looks very good! |