Terraed order !

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Filax(Posted 2004) [#1]
With TerraEd create easily maps for your blitz projects !
import your hown terrain with colormap and detail map !
import objects (3DS,X,B3D), paste, rotate, scale, duplicate
objects on your terrain or in your 3D levels ...

You can use Terraed not only with terrain ! you can import
a 3D level, and paste your objects on !

And next load your map under blitz application with one
line of code : Ter_LoadTerraMap("./Datas/TmpMap.Ted") !

I plan some functions for interact with all map objects
in your code with blitzlike function wraping ! example :
Ter_TurnTerraObject("MyObject",0,3,0)
Ter_PositionTerraObject("MyHouse",10,3,10)

The Terraed maps are not static !

PRICE : 20 EURO (Via SHARE IT)

Order Terraed on :
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http://www.3dgametool.com/project_terraed.htm

Try Terraed demo :
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http://www.blitz3dfr.com/terraed_projet/TerraEd.zip

Try a demo map made with terraed :
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http://www.blitz3dfr.com/click/clic.php?url=http://www.blitz3dfr.com/mes_projets/landscape-V2.zip

Terraed Screen :
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Kornflex(Posted 2004) [#2]
I have it's :) Great work Filax :)

Regards,


IPete2(Posted 2004) [#3]
Filax,

Merci - for reconsidering - I have ordered it just now :)

IPete2.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#4]
Thanks dear customer's ! :)


Ricky Smith(Posted 2004) [#5]
Filax - I may be wrong but due to lack of documentation on what Terraed really is and looking at the demo it seems that this is just a placement tool for objects on a Blitz Terrain ? (albeit a very nice looking one !)
As a potential customer - What unique/special features does Terraed have or offer that make it worth paying 20 Euros for ( similar price to Milkshape3d, Ultimate Unwrap, CharacterFX )?
What else does it do besides loading a terrain and skybox and placing objects. Does it do any single surface tree/grass ? Can you paint roads on the terrain ?


Filax(Posted 2004) [#6]
Hi smiff

TerraEd is not a heightmap and texture generator, this tool
help gfx artist to make map. This is not 3DS max :)

I have just relase this tool in speed mode :) for the moment
you can do with terraed :

Import HeightMap image
Import ColorMap image
Import DetailMap image
Define Terrain Scale/Height/Detail

Setup Lightning (Color etc)
Setup camera (Fog, Color, Distance)

Import Object (3DS,X,B3D)
Paste object on terrain or 3D objects
Move,Rotate,Scale object easily
Generate Easily forrest ...

And more to come ...

For information i have made my landscape demo with Terraed
in 4 hours .... If i have made the same thing in blitz basic
code i would not have finished yet.

"Does it do any single surface tree/grass ?" Yes but not directly in terraed, but you can do with a 3D editor a
single surface grass and spread it on your terrain with terraed.

I have made a new page for terraed

http://www.3dgametool.com

TOOLS Sections

To do :

Documentation with a tutorial !
Duplicate mode
Some other stuff


Ricky Smith(Posted 2004) [#7]
So - its just an expensive placement editor ?


Filax(Posted 2004) [#8]
I not oblige anybody to buy it:)you can make your hown placement tool :)

20 euros expensive ? maybe ... but i have made hard work
on this tool.

Precision about price :
Don't forget European VAT tax ! 3 Euro !


Filax(Posted 2004) [#9]
After your remarks about TerraEd and the expansive price...

I stop the distribution of the software

I continue the support for the people who bought it ! of course.


Rob Farley(Posted 2004) [#10]
Filax, you really are a precious aren't you! Smiff was working out what you're selling and commenting on it. If you're going to pull your software that's you're choice, but for own good get a thicker skin!


Filax(Posted 2004) [#11]
There are no problems! :) it's just a personnal conclusion
about TerraEd real utility for your blitz projects :) smiff
have reason, it's just a to much simple tool.


Daz(Posted 2004) [#12]
Filax - just a quick question for you. What application did you use to create the height and colour map jpeg files?

Thanks.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#13]
no ! but you can make it with some other tool like
TOTAL TERRAIN or WORLD BUILDER :) TerraEd only help you
to setup easyly your map and paste object on it.


Rob Farley(Posted 2004) [#14]
Daz, you can check my site for terrain shader if you're interested in a procedual texture creator.


Kornflex(Posted 2004) [#15]
20 euros it's a fair price for this nice placement editor (+environment lightning) and he is better than Worldspin at 30$ !

If you are not happy with his price don't buying it's. Make your own if you have time and let Filax making his buisness :)

Regards,


Filax(Posted 2004) [#16]
if you want order terraed send me an email :
blitz3d.fr@... or goto on
www.3dgametool.com (TOOLS section)


Paul "Taiphoz"(Posted 2004) [#17]
Hay m8 dont stop selling it just cause one guy spits up about it.

You know I want it but wont have the money for a few days yet.

I think you should keep selling this product, Just sell it for what it is, A terrain placement and lighting environment thingi.. Which just happens to be exactly what were looking for. IE looking to buy a tool instead of spending hours days weeks on making our own.

Keep up the good work m8.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#18]
ok ... see my previous post for ordering.


Daz(Posted 2004) [#19]
I second exactly what Doctor Who just said. I bought BCF 3 and plan on buying TeraED in the next few days.

I think it is a give that some people will make negative comments, but don't let that put you off.

Just keep up the great work and keep going with all your excellent products.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#20]
DoctorWho i love you :)


Edwin SI(Posted 2004) [#21]
Filax,
since you're still selling it you might want to answer a few questions i have.

How does the "world" export? Pure b3d-code or are you using your own format? If using your own format, is it possible to easily add objects like particles, collisions and libs (like for exampe tree3d)?

Would it be possible to export the "wolrd" as a b3d-file so we can lightmap it in another tool? (Gile[s] for example).

Will there be support for planes so we can add water, skies and so on?

You used some nice effects in the demo like the glow...can this be done in the tool too...or is this going to be added ?

Will there be a f.a.q. with all the ins and outs of the tool. Right now i really don't know anything about the export options whhich is kinda important.

And finally, what is going to be added in the future..if anything? And will upgrades be free to exisitng users?

Ps. don't give up to quickly when receiving criticism. I have decided NOT to buy it YET because i like my tools to have some future. You started selling, stopped selling and started selling again in 1 day !!! That doens't give me the impression this tool will be around/supported for a very long time...

Now ofcourse it's not MY tool nor should you care about what I say, but maybe some people are put off by it which would be a shame since it looks like something VERY COOL.


Kornflex(Posted 2004) [#22]
Nice Release Filax :)

The function copy and past working very well.

Thanks again for this great Tool !

Regards,


Kissme(Posted 2004) [#23]
I wan it's too ;-D

Kiss


Filax(Posted 2004) [#24]
"Will there be support for planes so we can add water, skies and so on?"

Yes i plan it ! But you can define cubic skybox with terraed !

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"Pure b3d-code or are you using your own format"

I use my own format, readable with an include (send when you register), in one line of code Ter_LoadTerraEdMap(Mapfile$)

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"collisions and libs (like for exampe tree3d)? "

Collision are supported ! not in editing but only in player
mode.

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"Would it be possible to export the "wolrd" "

No but TerraEd containt i little lightmaper, and you can import Giles lightmaped object (B3D) !

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"And will upgrades be free to exisitng users? "

Of course !!!!!!!! like BCF

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"And finally, what is going to be added in the future..if anything?"

I don't know for the moment ! but i think ...
- Water setup
- More editing tools
- Better lightmapper
- Import Sprite possibility !
....

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"You started selling, stopped selling and started selling again in 1 day !!! "

It is not my fault! I thought sincerely that blitz community don't like this tools ! but I see that finally it is not true ! I don't want to sell a software which people do not like? do you understand ?


JoshK(Posted 2004) [#25]
Why don't you package up your plant models and sell them? I'd pay $100 if it meant I had all the plants I needed for my project.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#26]
hi halo :)

Why ? i don't know ! :) it's an idea ...


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#27]
@filax


DoctorWho i love you :)


I love you too filax!!!
I wish I had the talent you have!! Exspecially in the level
building department!!

A quick question to you filax that doesn't really apply to this thread here. The Egyptian Level & the others you did and all... What development tool did you use to build your levels? Im' just curious because I currently have LightWave 3D 7.0 and also 3DS Max 4. If you use any of these tools for creating indoor levels such as the Egyptian Level you did a little while back... Which one would you recommend to me?

P.S. I've just ordered your TerraED 2.0 just an half-hour ago! Thank you very much for this tool, I appreciate all your hard work and development of this very fine tool!


Filax(Posted 2004) [#28]
Re hi :)

In a long time ago ! i was a lightwave user :) but now
a prefer work only with 3DS max :)

3DS max is a great 3D editor !

For the egypt level the most hard work was the texture research, the modeling is simple ! where you can find egyptian texture ??? lol with google !!! i have browse
3298934289234 sites for find some good textures.

PS : Thanks for registering !!


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#29]
@filax


Hey no problem with the registering man! I will always support your products filax! I would of ordered BCF 3.0 as well... But I kinda' ran out of money on my Credit Card! :(

It's too bad that you're not running a special today with the TerraED 2.0 and all where you would sell TerraED 2.0 along with a Free Copy of BCF 3.0 too!

But hey! It's nice to think about such thing huh? I'll see if I can purchase BCF 3.0 hopfully this weekend!

P.S. I'll check 3DS Max out again and see if it works better for me! But I do like LightWave 3D 7's interface though!


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#30]
Hi,

this looks like an incredible tool. Do I get a discount by buying both BCF and TerraEd :-)?

DocWho: where is that Egyptian Level?

Regards,
Dirk


Filax(Posted 2004) [#31]
Hi :)

i don't know how do this, with SHARE IT ? somebody have an idea ? :/

for the egyptian level :


http://www.blitz3dfr.com/click/clic.php?url=http://www.blitz3dfr.com/mes_projets/egypt.zip


Kissme(Posted 2004) [#32]
I just received your great TerraED.

I like it's alot, very easy to use and very fast support !

Nice work.

Kiss.


Kornflex(Posted 2004) [#33]
Congratz Filax, i think alot of us are happy with yours stuffs (BCF 3 and TerraED).

I confirm we can using TerraED for indoor and outdoor 8-D

Regards,


cermit(Posted 2004) [#34]
TerraEd it's a greate tool! :D i like it a lot, now i have it too! Awesome GUI there Filax, very simple to use i think.


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#35]
Hi,

just tried it. It feels very good and besides, everybody buys it, so I'll get carried away :-).

But I don't like that someone gets diss'd here, just because he is asking not-too-critical questions about a product.

Filax, never mind about discounts, I'll just buy TerraEd. Just leave the plants in it in future versions, ok?


Regards,
Dirk


Kuron(Posted 2004) [#36]
Don't quit seeling it because of one person. If somebody doesn't like it, tell them to go "F" themselves.

Seems reasonable to me for $25 (USD). I don't have a sue for it as I don't use B3D for 3D, but it definitely is a nice looking tool.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#37]
Dirk Krause i release some plants in the future version
but only for customer's ! i'm making a little plant pack...

But for the moment i'm working to improve terraed !

DoctorWho : Do you receive well your licence ?


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#38]
One question: what tool did you use to create the terrain for the demo?

Regards,
Dirk


jfk EO-11110(Posted 2004) [#39]
How do you wrap an entities Properties in only 17 Parameters?


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#40]
just ordered.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#41]
Dirk Krause : Terraed !!! of course :) lol

Your talking about landscape demo ? if yes :
the water plane (soon include) and the glow effect are
some other source code, but the map and the positioning of
all objects in the demo are made with terraed in 4
hours ! without one position/rotation/scale entity !

If your talking about heightmap and colormap : i have use

World Machine + photoshop for generating terrain
and colormap


Thanks for ordering

jfk : Its a secret :)


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#42]
@filax


DoctorWho : Do you receive well your licence ?


Yes filax! I recieved my registration lisence file!

And Thank's again for this awesome tool!

P.S. How do you go about importing a model into TerraED?
It seems a little bit different on that end!

Thank's again filax! And I love your TerraED Tool!


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#43]
I didn't put my question right, stupid me. I meant the three textures (height map, color, detail): what tool did you use to create them?

Regards,
Dirk


Filax(Posted 2004) [#44]
If your talking about heightmap and colormap : i have use

World Machine + photoshop for generating terrain
and colormap

http://students.washington.edu/sschmitt/world/


Filax(Posted 2004) [#45]
Doctor ??? i don't understand your question about importing object ?


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#46]
filax


I click the "Object" button and a window comes up with some ".B3D" models in it.

I go and select a model file and click load, But another window comes with textures & model files in it!!

Am I to select first a model file ".B3D", And then select it's texture in the second pop-up window? Im' not understanding I guess what's going on here! Im' sorry filax!


Tri|Ga|De(Posted 2004) [#47]
I just ordred it to!

Lets play


Tri|Ga|De(Posted 2004) [#48]
Like DoctorWho:

I can't place any objects.
My mouse has a scroll wheel, not a middle button.

What to do?


Filax(Posted 2004) [#49]
Ok ok guys !!

explication :

if you want plant an object on the map do this :

Click on the OBJECT button (bottom on the screen) the object window appear.

Next if you click on 'Add Object' a file requester mount
for select a 3D object to IMPORT !! click on a B3D or 3DS
or X File.

The file appear in the OBJECT window list, click on
imported the object name in the listbox and close the
window.

Next click (TOP of the screen) on the 8 button of the toolbar. for activate the paste mode. NExt click on your
map for paste object !

Do you understand ? :)

Be patient for the documentation, i plan a step by step tutorial !


Tri|Ga|De(Posted 2004) [#50]
Got it!

Thanx Filax


Filax(Posted 2004) [#51]
The object windows is only an object database where you
can import / delete / clear all object ! all the terraed
function are in the toolbar or menu or right dock.


Edwin SI(Posted 2004) [#52]
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"Will there be support for planes so we can add water, skies and so on?"

Yes i plan it ! But you can define cubic skybox with terraed !
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I noticed, been playing with the skybox for a while.
I would however like to use planes for my sky instead of skyboxes. I'm one of the few that prefers double-layered moving cloud planes instead of a static skybox.

But hey, if you're adding the support then that's nice.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#53]
ok ;) but that will oblige me has to change the format
of the terraed maps! I would make as far as possible
converter! or then you can not setup of skybox in terraed
and to include your own skybox code ?

Plan for the next version :

- Animated object (do you want ?)
- Some functions for interact with object in the map
- Water Setup
- Floor Setup


wmaass(Posted 2004) [#54]
Hey filax,

I like the demo and am tempted to buy. One thing that would be usefull for me: when pasting have an option to randomize scale and rotation. It may already be in there but I could not find how to do it.


IPete2(Posted 2004) [#55]
Go to the Spread option (bottom menu)

Select an onbject, then set the starting height, ending height, scale, and so much more... how many you want to spread around your level and hit the spread button.

IPete2.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#56]
it's alway ready for the next update !!! :) happy ?

I have made the lock function to ! like 3DS max :)


Isaac P(Posted 2004) [#57]
Is Eoles Landscape system included in the purchase of terraed?


Filax(Posted 2004) [#58]
No Eole terrain system is another stuff maybe implented in
a future terraed version ...

You can contact Eole on www.3dgametool.com for more
informations ? :)


Paul "Taiphoz"(Posted 2004) [#59]
quick question..

@ Filax :: Is this Eole thing required ??

Anyway, Im wondering the following things.

How do you handle the items on the terrain and is it easy to setup collisions for them ???


Paul "Taiphoz"(Posted 2004) [#60]
Oh I forgot to ask..

Is there anyway easy way to get the global position of an object placed on a map with terraed. ??

Example..

I place a Waypoint or teleport model in my map. I want to find its location and spawn my player on it... will this be possible..


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#61]
Phillipe plans to introduce special commands to do things like that, looks like:

Ter_PositionTerraObject("Filax",EntityX(Cam),entityy(Cam),EntityZ(Cam))

But it's not implemented yet. But this guy is a hard worker plus he sleeps once a week for an hour or so :-), so it should be implemented soon.

Regards,
Dirk


Ruz(Posted 2004) [#62]
Why do my objects 'ripple' when I place them.
Makes me feel seasick


Zmatrix(Posted 2004) [#63]
I tried the demo and it was pretty nice :)
Think youll be adding a mesh export?
That way we could make a landscape and then export it to b3d,.x or 3ds and run it through a lightmapper.
It could then be used by other engines...and you stand to make more cash ;) heh

plus meshes render faster than blitz's terrains.
(might not after all the trees/plants were added,im not sure)

anyways...it look good.
Dont let people get to you, You worked hard on it and its interace is easy to use. 20euro is cheap

Zmatrix


IPete2(Posted 2004) [#64]
Hey Team,

Here's what I have been doing for the last day or so, my river has flooded onto the riverplane landscape:












Generated a heightmap, generated a colour map with help from World Machine and Photoshop, used Filax's detail jpg, placed a load of trees and ferns using the spread option, created two water planes and added rotating textures with alphas offsets for both, added a couple of my own meshes, added some code for screenshots, voila.

Okay it's not Far Cry but it was very quick to develop to this level of quality and detail!

Merci Philippe!

IPete2.


Perturbatio(Posted 2004) [#65]
you missed a . after www in the image urls

*EDIT*
Oh that's right! fix it now and make me look a fool! ;)


IPete2(Posted 2004) [#66]
:)


joncom2000(Posted 2004) [#67]
You missed a . in the links Ipete2. (hehe, seems you fixed it :) )
Nice screenshots. This is a very interesting tool :)


Filax(Posted 2004) [#68]
Thanks IPete2 ! very nice map ! i hope do you like alway
TerraEd !

Zmatrix : I love you :)

joncom2000 : I love you to !

Yavin : The is no problem for collision i plan a complet
SDK for help developer to do this. (.max file, help etc)
but i have a very hard work to launch TerraEd ! be patient.


Dirk Krause(Posted 2004) [#69]
@IPete2: how did you create two water planes?

Regards,
Dirk


IPete2(Posted 2004) [#70]
Dirk,

I did it this way - have a look in the include file for TerraEd, you'll see a whole stack of functions, one of which ia a create plane (mesh) and the other is ripple that mesh.

I used them and called them from my main programme.

I did introduce cube mapping too but it was too much for the cpu - Im a novice at the cube mapping stuff, I bet there's a much better way to do it.

In the end I put two water mesh/planes, one under the other and alpha'd them differently so you could see them through each other. I mad a texture looking like tileable water and textured both meshes with that.

I called the ripple function each loop and both meshes move independantly - nice but not as good as cube mapped water surface in the TerraEd demo!

:)

IPete2.


Filax(Posted 2004) [#71]
:) nice shoot man :) effectivly a plan some functions
for my dear customer's Water Plan and Floor Plan i think
don't integrate directly under Terraed because some user's
integrate their hown floor and sky model.

But i will send to my customer's a new demo with this
functionality soon :)

And some other functions for interact with your map objects !

Like :

Ter_MoveTerraObject(Name$,Px#,Py#,Pz#)
Ter_TurnTerraObject(Name$,Pitch#,Yaw#,Roll#,GlobalMode=False)
Ter_PositionTerraObject(Name$,Px#,Py#,Pz#,GlobalMode=False)
Ter_RotateTerraObject(Name$,Pitch#,Yaw#,Roll#,GlobalMode=False)

Etc ... bref :) a little wrapper


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#72]
Sounds like filax is heating things up around here with his awesome TerraED! This tool has great flexibility! Im' so glad I purchsed it when I did! Now im' going to purchase BCF 3.0 for one of my editors im' designing right now!

Thank's again for this tool filax!


Filax(Posted 2004) [#73]
:) smack !


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#74]
filax


Do you think you could design me some models for a game Im' currently working on! I'll pay you for your services of course! That is... If your not to involved in other projects to where you can't at the moment! I only need a few models made for this game! Your modeling skills are excellent, And I would like to have you design them for me!
Let me know what you think of this purposal?!?

Thank's alot!!


Filax(Posted 2004) [#75]
If you have some screen of your level, i'll be see it !

For your purposal ! thanks you ! :) i plan to share some
of my objects (trees, plant, house etc) but with my wife
we are preparing this project ! when it's ready
i'll send to you an email :) but for the moment i'm full
time on terraed improvment !


Kozmi(Posted 2004) [#76]
ok filax...

That's cool! I'll be in touch then!
Thank's man!