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Monkeynizing my game - some findings

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gameproducer(Posted 2011) [#1]
(oooh... forum bug that moved this reply to be the first in the thread after Edit. Odd!)

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gameproducer(Posted 2011) [#2]
Here's some findings after I've started monkeynizing my 2D game that I made some time ago. (Game screenies link: http://www.gameproducer.net/pre-order-dwarf-game/ )

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FINDINGS:
I use STRICT always.

File names setup:
- Change file names (.bmx => .monkey)

Folder structure: (Didn't test this yet... so correct if wrong!)
- yourgame/
- yourgame/myGameApp.monkey <--- file name is important!
- yourgame/character.monkey
- yourgame/whatnot.monkey
- yourgame/myGameApp.data/ <-- assets go here
- yourgame/myGameApp.data/images/dwarf.png <-- see also #12, scroll down
- yourgame/myGameApp.data/levels/stuff/ <-- sub directories can be done this way


Then inside files:
1) SuperStrict => Strict

2) import "file.bmx" => import file

3) LOCALS outside classes need to be turned to GLOBALS

4) AppTitle => 'AppTitle (comment away)

5) Type => Class

6) Functions inside classes => Method

7) static/singleton classes work: (hanks therevills)
Class TCharacterHandler
	Function update:Void()
		Print "WORKS"
	End
End

TCharacterHandler.update()



8) Methods need to have return values... or declared void always:
Method WontWork()
End
...

Method Works:Int()
 return 0
End
...

Method WorksToo:Void() '<-- use this, thanks ziggy
End


9) Rem ........... End Rem
=> #rem .......... #end

10) If you get "couldn't find identifier", it might be case-sensitive issue. Make sure it's "Print" and not "print"

compilation error messages are bit crappy at the moment, so most likely there's typo or you type something wrong. "endclass" or "EndClass" should be "End Class".

11) Debuglog => Print
(sort of)

12) LoadAnimImage("../images/dwarf.png", 18, 18, 0, 2)
=> LoadImage("images/dwarf.png", 2)

Check LoadImage for more details on how to use this. Also ensure Folder structure is ok. ("mygamefolder/mygame.data/images/dwarf.png")

13) Error handling:
RuntimeError "doesn'twork"

Error "Works!"


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CONTINUES...
Adding more tips as I go through the piles of .bmx code

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slenkar(Posted 2011) [#3]
good list laddie


therevills(Posted 2011) [#4]
I havent found it yet, but is there a hideCursor command in Monkey?


ziggy(Posted 2011) [#5]
methods do not have to return values always. You can declare a method void.
Class MyClass
   Method Draw:Void(value1:String)
   End
End



gameproducer(Posted 2011) [#6]
@ziggy: perfecto. Thanks!


taumel(Posted 2011) [#7]
Nice list, thanks.


Raz(Posted 2011) [#8]
Nice list, thank you :)


Grey Alien(Posted 2011) [#9]
Thanks for the list!

For the singleton class, can't you just use Static on the update method and also Static on any variable declarations that it uses so that you don't need to instantiate it? I haven't used monkey yet but I know this works in other languages.

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therevills(Posted 2011) [#10]
You still can do this:

Function Main:Void()
	Print "Just Monkey Code"
	Test.work()
End Function

Class Test
	Function work:Void()
		Print "WORK"
	End
End


Looks like Static isnt a keyword. Here is a list of keywords for Monkey:

void
strict
public
private
property
bool
int
float
string
array
object
mod
continue
exit
include
import
module
extern
new
self
super
eachin
true
false
null
not
extends
abstract
select
case
default
const
local
global
field
method
function
class
and
or
shl
shr
end
if
then
else
elseif
endif
while
wend
repeat
until
forever
for
to
step
next
return
interface
implements
inline


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gameproducer(Posted 2011) [#11]
I stand corrected... and editing my posts. Singleton/static seems to work indeed.

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Grey Alien(Posted 2011) [#12]
OK good to know thanks!


therevills(Posted 2011) [#13]
Be aware that you should use the return type Int for Main and the Mojo.app overidden functions to ensure cross-platform code!

http://www.monkeycoder.co.nz/Community/posts.php?topic=135


therevills(Posted 2011) [#14]

4) AppTitle => 'AppTitle (comment away)



Hey gameproducer, what do you mean with the AppTitle?

Looking at the mojo code I thought you had to override it, something like this:
Method AppTitle$()
	Return "TEST"
End Method


But this doesnt work...


degac(Posted 2011) [#15]
stupidest question/idea at launch-time...

The idea is to change the Monk-IDE to 'strict-ize' all the function/methods/vars found in the source code: you write normally, the *before* run/debug the IDE saves a temp.source.file, converts/adds everything necessary (:int, :void, return 0 and so...), save the file, compile and execute the 'new file'.

I suppose monk-source code is available in the maxgui fork so something should be possible...mmhmmhmmmh something to do this weekend - but honestly I want to play with monkey :)

back in thread: interesting discoveries, thanks Gameproducer!


slenkar(Posted 2011) [#16]
The idea is to change the Monk-IDE to 'strict-ize' all the function/methods/vars found in the source code

that would be luvly

how about an option to add all that stuff permanently?
(i.e.re-write the users source code)