Paid Job: Casino Games Programmer

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AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#1]
Hi guys!

Would anyone here be interested in writing some casino-style computer games in BlitzMax and then selling them to my client? He is looking to have a couple dozen games written up to which he can buy the complete rights to.

So, I am looking for one or more programmers, that can write good, clean, well-documented, modularized code in BlitzMax. (Other Blitz languages may be acceptable, but there are certain requirements for these games that I'm not sure are supported by the other Blitz languages. Maybe you can tell me when we speak.) Graphics and audio can be provided, but placeholder graphics/audio can be used for the time being. Work can start ASAP. Target platform: PC.

If you can do the programming behind games such as these:
http://www.123cafedemos.com/
and have the time and interest, please email me and we can discuss the details. Please let me know what kind of compensation you have in mind.

Thanks!

PS - I am wondering, if there is enough interest, if new forums can be added on here for "Programmers Wanted" & "Seeking Work" regarding paid projects? Could be useful...

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Ross C(Posted 2011) [#2]
What kind of payment would you give? Would it be half now and half later? You might get more interest if you divulge some details :) How much is your client buying them from you? That might help a little as you aren't going to pay someone more than a certain percentage of the selling price.


Kryzon(Posted 2011) [#3]
What kind of payment would you give? Would it be half now and half later? You might get more interest if you divulge some details :)

I think it's best to handle this sort of information through e-mail :)


Ross C(Posted 2011) [#4]
Just seems more ideal that there is a going price for the work?


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#5]
Ross_C, I think Kryzon is right about perhaps discussing the details via email. :)

But, to answer a couple of your questions, I believe he would be willing to pay in intervals, so long as you have something to show. For example, if you get 25% of the way through, he would probably we willing to pay 25% of an agreed upon fee. Hopefully, at that point, you can show that it is 25% functional. :) I'd have to clear this through him, of course.

I really don't know what price he is willing to pay, as he hasn't told me. He didn't want to quote something too high, nor too low. If you are truly interested, please send me a quote via email, and I'll pass it along to him. And if there is room for negotiation, all the better.

If you can, please send a link to any samples of your work.

Thanks!


Amanda Dearheart(Posted 2011) [#6]
1. You're from Canada. I don't know about online gambling in Canada, but I do know that here in the U.S. it is illegal. I don't wan to risk spending the rest of my time in jail.

2. The website you linked to has games that are overflooded in the casino business, whether they are (just for fun only) online games or actual games played in land based casino establishments.

3. I'll have to contact you later to finish my posting.

Contact me at:

cjw_clients@...


andy_mc(Posted 2011) [#7]
online gambling illegal in the US? Hmm, didn't know that.


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#8]
Hi Amanda.

Thanks for the interesting points. Although I'm not sure where you are going with them...

1. I don't know what the legality of online gambling is in any country. If you are saying that you can go to jail for gambling online, then maybe you shouldn't gamble online! :) Seriously though, I am assuming that you are referring to some kind of risk by programming these games? Well, to put your mind at ease: (1) Programming games, whether they are to be used for (assumingly) illegal online gambling or not, is of no risk to you as it is not illegal to PROGRAM those games, as far as I know! (2) Once you are done the programming, complete rights to the program will be transferred from you to my client purchasing your game. (3) You are only asked to program these games to run in a closed system. (4) These games are not intended to be used online. They are going to be used in a legal brick-n-mortar Internet Cafe business. But who knows what my client will do with these programs in the future. He can do whatever he wants since he will own them.

(2) My client doesn't care that the market is over-saturated with these kinds of games. Do you?

I'll answer whatever emails you send me.
Thanks!

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Amanda Dearheart(Posted 2011) [#9]
I'm back.

Last night, I had to leave early, and could not finish my posting, but I'm back now to clarify my thoughts.

1. Exactly what I was getting at. I know it is not illegal to PROGRAM the games, it is just illegal to send money over a wire for purposes of gambling.

2. For this point, we can argue until we're blue in the face about this one. But what I'm trying to get at is that every casino has a slot machine, poker machine, or blackjack machine. Why waste time building another with different graphics, when it is possible to program something different. Something that the regular gamblers have not seen.

I have a suite of games based on numbers, a deck of cards, and games many adults played as a kid. (Those adults born before the computer revolution that is, before the era of video games brainwashed their little minds that there is more to life than an Windows machine and a joystick)

I'll let you in on three of them!

1. A number based game. Wild guesses. The computer thinks of a number between 1 and 10. You get three attempts to guess that number with decreasing prize amounts. EG gameplay. You place a bet of $3. If you guess the number correctly on your first try, you win $3. IF you guess incorrectly, you get a second chance. This time, if you guess correctly, you win $2. IF not, you get a third and final chance. This time you only $1 if you guess the number or you lose your bet entirely. This game is I say 90% completed. I just need to work out some bugs.

2. Two child-like games. Scissors , Rock, Paper. If you remember the rules of which beats which, this is simple. You engage the computer in a battle. You simply place a bet if you pick the object that beats the computer object. I believe that the rules are rock breaks scissors, scissors cuts paper, and paper covers rock, so if you pick paper, and the computer picks rock, you win, otherwise you lose if the computer has picked scissors. Of course, in a tie, your bet is returned to you. I haven't started programming this one yet.

3. Coin Toss. This is as simple as it gets. The computer tosses a coin. You simply place a bet and call heads or tails. If you're correct, you win. If not you lose. I haven't started this one, yet, but how much programming effort can this one take. These latter two also has a feature that I wish to keep secret until I can get the feature patented.

I know I have the talent to program these games. What I need is a distributor, a Steve Jobs (RIP) type of personality that makes a person or company want to pay for these ideas. And of course time to program them. (I also need to spend less time on those adult sites, but that's another problem)

Email me if you're interested.
cjw_clients@...


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#10]
Amanda, I sent you an email.


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#11]
Anyone else have any interest at all?


Amanda Dearheart(Posted 2011) [#12]
Which e-mail address did you use?

Was it the e-mail that rejected my ideas?

or did you e-mail with something else?


Captain Wicker (crazy hillbilly)(Posted 2011) [#13]
I would help but I really can't get hold of BlitzMAX.
Sorry about that.


SLotman(Posted 2011) [#14]
I would like to do it - I can code some cards games (I won't say anything about those slot machine games, which I don't quite understand) - but are the games really random, or does it needs some win/loose ratio control?

Does the games needs to access some server? Are they going to be played for money?


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#15]
Amanda, the email I used was the one that is shown on your public profile on this site (it is the personal one.) It is the email where I started off by saying "Thanks for your forum post. I have quoted it below for reference." and then pasted your post #9 above into it.

It's not that I rejected your ideas. It's just that we are not looking to distribute your games (I suggested you simply distribute them yourself on the App Store or other such sites). We are looking for someone to develop our games.


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#16]
SLotman, the games will eventually need to access a server, but that is not part of the requirements of the product you will deliver. Yes, they will played to win real money but will not require real money to play.

I believe you would program the games using the simulated randomness of the game itself (for example, blackjack would use a simulated deck of cards (or multiple decks) and then draw from that deck and whatever comes up, comes up. It is not completely random for each hand, but simulated as per the games rules and limitations.


AarbronBeast(Posted 2011) [#17]
That's OK, Captain Wicker. What languages would you be able to program in, and what experience do you have?


Midimaster(Posted 2011) [#18]
hi AarbronBeast

I'm Peter from www.midimaster.com. Check out, what we did already...

perhaps I can help you writing these casino-style game, if you still looking for somebody. You should write something about the date you need the games.

writing them in BMax would be no problem. Does your client know exactly what computer games he need? Or is he still collecting ideas?

You wrote "the games behind....". But do you know, that all these samples are written in Flash or Java? And not Bmax?

feel free to contact me at info@...


GaryV(Posted 2011) [#19]
That's OK, Captain Wicker. What languages would you be able to program in, and what experience do you have?
ROFLMAO


Zethrax(Posted 2011) [#20]
PS - I am wondering, if there is enough interest, if new forums can be added on here for "Programmers Wanted" & "Seeking Work" regarding paid projects? Could be useful...

This is something that is well overdue.

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