Got an SM3 GPU? Please try this.

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JoshK(Posted 2009) [#1]
I want to see how this performs on a range of SM3 GPUs:
http://forum.leadwerks.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2904&p=25721#p25721

Please report FPS for both oldterrain.exe and newterrain.exe, as well as your GPU make and model. Thanks!


puki(Posted 2009) [#2]
I will test it soon (within the hour) - just in the middle of some action in X3.


puki(Posted 2009) [#3]
nVidia 8800 GTX

Old terrain - 175
New terrain - 182


Amon(Posted 2009) [#4]
122 - 128 fps for old terrain. But It's just a black screen with what appears to be white outlines of a terrain jotted about.

132-139 fps for new terrain with the same issue as the old terrain. Screeen is black but for a few jotted terrain edges.

Using a PNY 9500GT 512: Don't know if it's SM3. Link to specs here on nvidia site: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9500gt_us.html


PNY Specs: http://www.pny-europe.com/products.php?section=product&categoryid=7&subcategoryid=88&productid=255


puki(Posted 2009) [#5]
That's a SM4 card (which is better) - but not as good as my SM3 card.


puki(Posted 2009) [#6]
Wait a minute - my GTX must be a SM4 too.

Indeed - it was the first SM4 card - self-touch.


Amon(Posted 2009) [#7]
How can you tell? I've checked the specs and it doesn't state anything like that on the nvidia site or the PNY site.

Yeah your 8800GTX is faster considering it still costs over £100 yet my card is a budget £38.99 job from PC World. :)

Funny thing is 9500GT at under £40 is way faster than my 7950GX2 which died 4 months ago which cost £380 new some time ago.


puki(Posted 2009) [#8]
It will be listed as either 'Shader Model' or 'SM' - followed by the version number.


Gabriel(Posted 2009) [#9]
Puki's right, it's a Shader Model 4.0 card.


xlsior(Posted 2009) [#10]
My X1650XT is a shader model 3 card -- the oldterrain gives me a number between 45 and 47 in the corner, but visually the entire screen is just black with some grey smudges.

Newterrain immediately closes upon launch.


MadJack(Posted 2009) [#11]
For what it's worth;

80 fps old terrain
89 fps new terrain

In both cases the camera appears to be beneath the terrain with the new terrain appearing to be more vertically stretched then the 'old terrain'.

ATI 4850, driver v 6.14.10.6891
Winx XP Home
CPU Pentium D 3Ghz


Hotcakes(Posted 2009) [#12]
I have a GeForce 9600GT (also reported by your log file as SM4) and have exactly the same problem as Amon (and xlsior by the sounds of it).

Nevertheless, reported FPS was ~140 for oldterrain and ~155 for newterrain.


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#13]
It doesn't matter what it looks like.

I am getting the same result on my ATI X1550. I'll have to send a report to ATI after some more testing.


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#14]
I overlooked something, and the speed increase on Nvidia SM4 cards is actually more like 17%. A 50% improvement resulted on ATI SM4 cards.

However, on SM3 cards, both NVidia and ATI, it was unusable, for different reasons. See my blog.

Thanks for testing.


*(Posted 2009) [#15]
ATI HD2600 XT AGP SapphireTech card (8.7 drivers), SM4

Old terrain : 30fps
New terrain : GL_INVALID_OPERATION error

with 9.2 drivers
Old and New terrain:32 fps


Xaron(Posted 2009) [#16]
Nvidia GeForce 7300LE (SM3)

Leadwerks Engine 2.22
Initializing Renderer...
OpenGL Version: 2.1.2
GLSL Version: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
Render device: GeForce 7300 LE/PCI/SSE2
Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
DrawBuffers2 supported: 0
16 texture units supported.
GPU instancing supported: 0
Shader model 4.0 supported: 0

Old Terrain: 26 fps
New Terrain: 0.8 fps


Knotz(Posted 2009) [#17]
Ati 4850 - Catalyst 9.2

Old 49
New 54


GW(Posted 2009) [#18]
Old Terrain: 205
New Terrain: 235
Card=Gtx280
also: it looks like the camera is underneath the terrain because everything is black with few grey stripes with the normals angled away from the camera.


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#19]
I found out how to fix it for SM3 NVidia cards. Now to see what ATI says.

It doesn't matter what it looks like, I am just testing the rendering routine.


Dodo(Posted 2009) [#20]
Old Terrain: 68.5
New Terrain: 0.64
Card=Nvidia 6600GT (Driver 182.08)


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#21]
The NVidia SM3 problem can be fixed, and ATI is dropping support for their SM3 cards.


Perturbatio(Posted 2009) [#22]
I get 202 with old, 210 with new, same white lines on black screen issue. (I updated to the latest drivers just recently).


smilertoo(Posted 2009) [#23]
old: 148
new: 152

all i get is some white on a black screen.


FlameDuck(Posted 2009) [#24]
HD4870x2
old: 83
new: 93


Thareh(Posted 2009) [#25]
Geforce 9800GX2
Old: 245
New: 252


ZJP(Posted 2009) [#26]
"...I have a GeForce 9600GT (also reported by your log file as SM4) and have exactly the same problem as Amon (and xlsior by the sounds of it)..."

+1

Old = 215Fps
New = 220Fps


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#27]
I have said a few times it is just a test, and it doesn't matter what appears onscreen. The camera is underneath the terrain.


JoshK(Posted 2009) [#28]
I got it working on my GEFOrce 7300, thanks for testing.


ZJP(Posted 2009) [#29]
"...I have said a few times it is just a test, and it doesn't matter what appears onscreen. The camera is underneath the terrain. .."

Sorry.