Who's working for BELRO?
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| If you have been creating a demo for BELRO or if you are creating a release version for BELRO would you mind stating who you are here? Sometimes contacting BELRO has been difficult (I haven't received a response from them since Dec 27) and I was wondering if anyone else was having this trouble. Also, I am curious how far some of you have gotten and what steps have taken place. You may contact me by email if you do not wish to post on this forum. |
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| What is BELRO??? |
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| http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=26622 |
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| ahhhh, I never trusted that thread in the first place. just my personal opinion based on 20 years of industry experience |
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| I am. :) I haven't heard from them in a while either, but I assumed it was the Christmas madness causing the delay. Plus, Rui told me they would be closed for the holidays Has anybody involved in this got their contract yet? On the occasions I have spoken to Rui I have never found any cause to believe that this project isn't genuine. It would be nice to have a more reliable means of communication, but that's the nature of the internet I suppose. |
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| I got a reply from Rui today. It seems things are going well so far. |
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| Any news? What is going on guys? |
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| Well, I wrote Rui two emails Monday morning and I am still waiting for a reply. I haven't been able to catch him online (Messenger) either. How about you Seldon? Anyone else? |
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| I got a reply from him yesterday. Come on, don't be too anxious, I think he has a lot of things to do and life in Brazil (being summer) is different. After all the last dead-line was june, no ? @Ron: Did you get my e-mail ? If you're interested on my installer for your program, please mail me privately. |
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| Seldon, I will email you privately tonight (about 8 hours from now). I have a number of questions that I would like you to answer. |
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| Wolron, can I get involved in this conversation (provided it is about this subject). My e-mail is : james@... Cheers. |
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| Am I to believe that Skitchy, Seldon, and I are the only ones creating games for BELRO? |
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| No - I am, well I think I am?! What's going on with communications with them? Has anyone received any details, etc? |
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| I have a half cooked concept demo...Kind of on hiatus for various reasons of my own. I'm not sure what my plan is now. I was hoping someone would make a post on here, either rui or one of you guys, just so I could get a general idea of how things were going. Judging from this, it looks like the communication is still the same :/ |
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| Well, I received this email on Tuesday (13th) in response to an email I wrote to Rui at his rui@... address. Hi Mr. Ron... This is Israel... I´m Rui´s brother... I´m answer to you cause he´s with probs in his mailbox... He was take some viruses in his PC and it´s unable until now... Anyway... I´ll talk to Rui about your e-mail immediatelly... By the way... I´m sorry about my bad english, ok? :) Best regards... Israel. Haven't heard anything since. I wrote Israel back to ask for clarification. |
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| Is this sort of thing 'normal'? I don't know whether to worry or not :/ To my knowledge Rui has not been on the forum, Messenger, or e-mail for about 2->3 weeks. Maybe he's gone on holiday. The deadline is fairly soon though, so it would be nice if somebody could enlighten us. Plus they were supposed to send us some 'stuff' before Christmas. I can't do any more on the project until that 'stuff' gets here. Where are you Rui? |
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| maybe it's all one big scam to steal some ideas? |
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| @Bacon: Too much work for just some ideas. You only have to look for some Internet casino games, if you need ideas. It's simply those projects haven't a TOP priority. @Skitchy: I got last e-mail from Rui last monday, that is the day before you got that reply from his brother. Sorry guys, but if you really need to contact him, why don't you call him by phone ? |
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| Sorry guys, but if you really need to contact him, why don't you call him by phone ? 1. I don't have his phone number. 2. Cost. (considering that the internet is free and I haven't been paid anything yet) Have YOU called Rui? Is it a business number or a private number? Is it toll or toll-free? Why don't you send me the phone number. I may give him a call. |
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| The phone number was given by Rui on his first post. I was called by him at very beginning. If you talk for little time, it won't cost that much. |
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| Just tried phoning. I *think* I got an answer-phone, but I don't speak the language so I don't know what the message said (it was a womans voice though :/ ). Could somebody else give it a try - preferably somebody who is multi-lingual. |
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| I just contacted Rui Barbosa by phone and it seems that he was unavailable just due to holidays, so everything is going fine. Rui will be back to work this friday, so there is nothing to worry about. |
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| That's a great relief! Well, back to work... |
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| Personally.. I have given up on this... no information despite several emails, no requested resources I needed, and no evidence of true commitment on their part... has anyone seen anything tangable? Skully |
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| Personally.. I have given up on this... no information despite several emails, no requested resources I needed, and no evidence of true commitment on their part... has anyone seen anything tangable? You just might be correct ... |
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| What is the point of going on with speculations and wild guesses, expecially when you can't prove anything good or bad about a specific company? As for now, the level of communication is not different from many companies I've dealt with, and except from this delay - which mainly depends from the country you live in and how holidays are distributed - they have been fairly responsive. |
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| @Doiron: thanks, that's a good new. Please could you contact me privately by e-mail ? |
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| No speculation or guesses here Doiron... fact is fact Communications has sucked and without the resources I requested an indeed needed from them I could hardly proceed with the game yet they wanted a workable demo in a month... Whatever... Skully |
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| Hi folks, I am back from vacation. In Brazil, we have one month vacation, not just 15 days. I was scheduled to come back on the 5th, but ended up taking the all the weeks off this year. People use to sell days from their vacations in Brazil. For instance, you can sell 2 weeks ang get payie those 2 weekw, plus 50%, and I have been doing that for quite soe time now. Anyway, I am back. After all, I do not believe that 3 weeks were enough to anyone finish a game. If this caused problems and yu guys want to give up, I must apologize and will be sorry for that. Now, please, everyone here has got my personal cell phone, which was available durng my vacations. Every single person here has my number, so if you have something to say, please call me and talk to me in person. Now, saying things about a companny is different from saying things about a person... don't do that. It might end up being a bad thing one day. Don't get me wrong... it's just a piece of advice. Now, shall we proceed? Thanks for the understanding, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Actualy, I got back last friday. But my computer has a virus, and was sent to a technician who can fix it. (I've got way too many important informantion in that computer, spread all over the directory's tree, so it wold take me forever to make a reliable backup... you guys probably already formated a computer once just to find out that when you restore the backup, you find out that you forgot one single file...). Then, I have sent my main computer to this guys who is gong to get rid of the virus without loosing my data. Well, I am back, ok? Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| I do not have messenger installed on this one computer here, and am not going to install it. So, yes, we are gong to have to wait untill tomorrow, so I can be contacted via messenger again. To everyone: For those who do not trust me, or the companny for that matter, Seldon has created a very nice installer, which you guys can use to protect yourself against the forces of darkness :^) (I am not saying that Seldon does not trust me... he just did the right thing). Actualy, If I did not trust a companny, it would not stop me from sending a dmo version, because I could do a smart installer, just like Seldon did. Please ask him for a copy and he might be able to help you guys to get ëxtra protection". To Seldon: The money will be sent wednesday, if that's fine with you. About being away for so long... Hehe... it was worth it... you guys should try it too. Stay away from the computer for at least a couple of weeks... it is amazing how refreshing it is... and how good you feel, despite of all the complaints I found on this thread, ;^) Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. P.S.: If, at any time, you have to conatct me, and for some reason I am not using the computer, PLEASE, call me. YOu can call collect (BELRO will pay for the call --- I guess the name is call-collect, right?). Besides, calling from U.S., U.K. and Canada, for instance, is ridiculously cheap. I hope you guys still willing to finish the games. If not, please let me know, so I can reassign the games to other people. Someone mentioned the delay in communications, that person even seems to have lost his faith on the project, due to the lack of communication... But this on person I am talking about has not sent the first demo that the companny requested... which was to be sent in one month from the original proposal. Anyway, I will be here all day today. Please contact me via forum, or e-mail. No messenger untill tomorrow, thou. |
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| BTW.: Did anyone give my brother's e-mail address to someone else? Be warned, some guy did steal some stuff... some serious stuff, from us and a couple of other compannies. It is better not to keep talking to this person, because this one guy is in trouble with a lot of people/compannies that he has stolen MONEY (lots of) and source-code, etc... It is not anyone in this thread. Just be aware that in this industry you are very likely to find pple who are worth less than a dog's farth. Be smart, and do not talk to these people --- you are going to get hurt. This person will either steal something from you, or you are going to be seeing with bad eyes, just for being talking to this person. I guess the person I am addressing this message to knows who I am talking about. Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Now, let's rock and roll !!! Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Now, please, everyone here has got my personal cell phone, which was available durng my vacations. Actually, I don't have your cell phone number (If you remember, a number of us did not receive any emails from you in the beginning, so if it was stated then, that would explain why I don't have it).Every single person here has my number, so if you have something to say, please call me and talk to me in person. Please email me about what needs to happen next between us. I don't have any more time today to speak with you but if you email me, I will read it tonight when I get home. If you have messenger working tomorrow, I will try to catch you then. |
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| Cool, you're back :) We were all just worried that the project had dissapeared, thats all. No harm done here though. :) I'm just waiting for the .dlls and manual you are sending, then I can get programming again. |
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| Hi folks, I just got back from the office of the guy who killed the virus which had infected my main computer. I will be available via Messenger starting tomorrow, at the usual times I was available before the holidays/vacation. Hope everything is fine with all you guys. WolRon: I will be available via Messenger tomorrow, so feel free to contact me. I missed you guys, too :^) Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Rui, No offence dude but I was never given the cell phone# and you were never "visible" in MSN and nor did I get more than one reply to my 7 or so emails. I was very willing to do the demo up but as I stated the nature of the game I was making REQUIRED the resource I asked for in order to make even the demo. I don't think the one item I asked for was too much at all. I already have the table built (which I paid my modeller $100 for out of pocket btw) and the wheel spinning but I needed to align the vertexs of the wheel with its associated texture (required for ball physics accuracy) which I never received. Obviously I'm not going to send a demo that looks or plays like crap so you can see why I am frustrated with this whole thing. So ya, go ahead and assign the game to someone else if you haven't already. I can finish it and sell it somewhere else if need be. Skully |
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| Welcome back Rui! :) As Rui said, my Installer is available to anyone keeping part of the project. It has also a portuguese localization. @Rui: there is no rush at all as I won't be able to prepare the PAK until saturday. Btw, I'd need informations about the hardware you use as I wanted to use it myself for a company project I'm starting. But maybe it's better to talk privately. |
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| This all sounds rather dodgy. I'd be VERY careful about what you're getting involved with. You don't want to lose time, energy and money unless you're sure. Think again. Maybe this will come to something. Sorry if you feel I've hi-jacked this thread, it's just that I've been following this. |
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| I agree with caff. I just didn't wanna say in case it was a bit of paranoia kicking in... You can't go on holiday for a month without telling the people who are supposedly working for you, then come back and make veiled threats because they've asked questions and jumped to conclusions in your absence. On another note - why are you conducting your business here? Why can't you use your own forum? |
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| Welcome back Rui! I told you people was getting worried. :) Actually, I don't have your cell phone number No offence dude but I was never given the cell phone# It was on the first thread opened on the subject: www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=26622 On another note - why are you conducting your business here? Why can't you use your own forum? It wasn't Rui that opened this topic after all... |
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| You can also reach me at +552191572472, but remember: I am in Rio de Janeiro´s time zone, daylight savings time, too. Where here does it say it's a cell phone number? or that it would take me directly to Rui. There isn't much use for a monolingual (myself) to be calling a number where I will most likely be required to speak Portuguese. |
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| Hi folks, I know some people are very upset. First, WolRon... WolRon has been doing a great job with the games he is writting. I am sorry that I left and did not leave a note, WolRon. Seldon... I am glad that you are not on such a hurry... BTW: Seldon has been working on the Casino games industry for real for a while now, and he is the one person in here who can tell wether BELRO is or isn't making a good deal, compared to the rest of the industry. Please, don't state the values, Seldon, but let the guys know that BELRO indeed came to an agreement with you, and that involves a considerable ammount of money, considering the value we pay for packages with tens of copies of the games --- again, do not disclose the values, because some games are worth less, others are worth more. Gfk: On another note - why are you conducting your business here? Why can't you use your own forum? Excuse me... are you working on any game? Actualy, I have stated in the forum which I have originaly opened that I DO NOT WANT people to talk about work in here. I have givven people the ways to reach me. If you are writting a game for us, please let me know... I just do not remember by your nick "gfk". Caff: Same as for gfk. People: I am not willing to talk in here, specialy because as you guys who are engaged, writting one or more games, already know that competitors have access to this forum. And these guys are mean... Some people here, in this very forum, could be the competitor, trying to screw a colaboration relationship which is very benneficial for everyone involved. _Skully: The companny will reimburse you for the $100,00 that you have payied to your modeller. e-mail me privately the directions on how you want to receive that money. Also, please bear in mind that I was on vacation --- I completely understand that you must be upset, but I will work on it, ok? Now, people, please keep in mind that a competitor, someone who stole money, source code and other stuff from our companny (and other two compannies) is lurking around, and might be willing to screw with our relationship. I would be glad if the BlitzPlus guys could lock this thread, to avoid further flamming... I will answer all the questions you ask, via private e-mail or via Messenger. Those people who are trying to make things look bad should not interfere. The guys who are working on games know who they are. They know what games they are working on. And they also know how much we will pay per copy or how many coppies we are going to buy. About the roulette: my bad. I have to send you the materials... and I will. Other people, who do not know what we are talking about, please do not interfere. Man, I understand that most of you guys must be very angry, because I have disapeared for two weeks more than I was supposed to. But some people just made me very sad. Please let's forget about this thread. Someone please lock this thread down. Geez, My first day back from my vacation, and I am already stressed... that sucks. BTW: Someone mentioned that one should not forget to tell people when he/she is taking a four weeks vacation. My bad. It is because in Brazil, vacation is four weeks long, capisce? I bet Mr. You-know-who is around here, trying to make things look bad, hu? For those who still have doubts about BELRO, please check the companny's record... we sell stuff to the Brazilian Petrolium Companny. I won't tell you what we seel for them, because I do not want Mr. You-know-who to go around like crazy swearing because we have created such high-tech stuff. |
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| BTW: Four weeks vaction because it is summer down here. And it is Rio de Janeiro. Weather is around 35 to 40 degrees celsius every day. So, I "reserve myself the right" to have made that mistake ;^) Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Besides, I have beeing working on so many things. Coordinating so many people. Working on some very sophisticated stuff. It has being frying my brain. My appologies, for those who deserve them. To everyone else, who have no idea of what we are doing here, go some place else. Read a book. Get some work done. To Mr. You-know-who: the truth came up... You are in debt... Please do not come in here and screw things. Isn't enough the money you stole? Do you need more than the source code that you stole? All of the source code that were disclosed to you, because we trusted you? You stole all of it... We do not give a damn, thou... We couldn't care less. Just leave us alone. Let go. Forget us. Get a life. Remember: Most people around here are something you are not: professionals, so read my lips: GET LOST! |
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| Geez, somebody stop me! Someone please lock this thread. I am really pi$$ed off with Mr. You-know-who. A friend, who became a competitor. A competitor who became a thief. A thief who stole money, source-code and lots of other stuff. Not from one, but from three compannies. Three BIG compannies. Mr. You-know-who: PI$$ OFF. All the businesses we are conducting do not involve source-code. Never sell your source code. Protect your source-code. Don't tell people (including us) how yur stuff works. In this industry, there are lots of people like Mr. You-know-who, who won't think twice before stealing your source-code. And money, of course... but money is something we can always get from our knowledge. But, come on... stealing source code? Isn't that the lowest thing you can think of? (Well, I can think of a couple of other things that are nastier, but at least they are fun :^) and don't hurt anyone. When someone steals my source-code, he is not stealing it from me. He is stealing it from my wife. From my life. From my swet. Even from my cat. Screw you, Mr. You-know-who. Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Someone shut down this thread! :^) |
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| If someone sees Mr. You-know-who, tell him I wish him a nice life... sentence, that-is. I have been stolen by many people, in the past. But this one guy, hey, he's number one in the list of "things" I wish I never found on my way. Lock this thread, guys... Mr. You-know-who did it again today. So, basicaly I am tired, and I am upset, and I am disgusted. And I am stressed. And I need to take another four weeks vacation. :^) But I won't. Mr. You-know-who... You know what? Of course you don't... Hehehe Cheers, everyone (Except Mr. You-know-who) Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| I've got to go to sleep now. Tomorrow, we will be back on track, folks, full speed. (I Hope Mr. You-know-who is tied on the track hehehe). I officialy would like to ask someone at the Blitz Official Team to lock this thread, if possible. 'nite everyone |
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| No offense, but calm down .. who is this you-know-who ? I was hoping to start writting a game for you way back when you posted the thread, but I never got a single aknowledgement, or resposne email. So basically I gave up hope on this. If your still interested in more people, to write games for your company, please contact me skn3ac@... . If you give me all details on what game I should be programming, how to accomodate the casino system and the methods of payment/royalties (as you mentioned you had given to some people here) then I can start to do some work for you. If of course you have filled all your positions, then please confirm this also. Hope to hear a response :) |
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| To everyone else, who have no idea of what we are doing here, go some place else. Read a book. Get some work done. If you don't want people giving their opinion then I would suggest that you stop posting here and contact your 'people' via telephone and e-mail instead.Its no good conducting your business here for all to see, and then bitching at people for having a point of view. Its unprofessional. Your little 'outburst' above only confirms that I was right not to trust you in the first place. This thread needs deleting. |
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| I have been stolen by many people, in the past. Kinky! :) Tracer |
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| Gfk why bother butting in on something that has absolutly zero to-do with you. Then claiming that you have the right to do what you want, because its a public topic. Just because you can ,doesn't mean you should. |
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| Gfk why bother butting in on something that has absolutly zero to-do with you. Then claiming that you have the right to do what you want, because its a public topic. I think you've answered your own question, there... |
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| Maybe he's concerned about ppl getting ripped off... |
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| I think you've answered your own question, there... It was a retorical question, notice I had no '?' I just think its rude to make unfounded claims. I think anyone with common sense can see that this situation "seems" dodgy, but there has infact been no evidence that any ilegal/ripping-off has gone on. |
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| I just think its rude to make unfounded claims I haven't 'claimed' anything. I've merely given my opinion of the situation, which... I think anyone with common sense can see that this situation "seems" dodgy, ...looking at your own words, it would seem you may reluctantly agree. but there has infact been no evidence that any ilegal/ripping-off has gone on. No. But there never is any evidence until its too late to do anything about it. Which is why I steer well clear of anything I have a bad feeling about. Saves the upset of points A, B and C, above. |
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| I didn't say that he was ripping ppl off :) |
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| You have already made clear that you think that rui is suspicious, and want to stay well clear away from it. That is your right, so my first point re-itereated, why bother butting in ? |
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| So you can say "Didn't I say so all along" afterwards, obviously. |
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| Rui, If you can get that media to me and are still interested in it's developement then we can worry about the $100 later... At this point I'm not willing to have money invested into the project until some kind of contract materializes anyway. Free agent at the mo ;) I was simply trying to make a point that I was committed to the project at the time... but like I said without that media... So if you can fire that media to me I'll take that as a "show of good faith" and carry on the with the project. Skully |
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| Rui, I waited for 4-1/2 hours this morning (7:30-12:00 (11:30-4:00 Rio time))to catch you on Messenger but you never appeared. What's going on? You said you would be there? |
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| I usually ignore annoying threads, but this one is really irritating. I don't think any of the concerns people have for developing for RUI are unreasonable, nor were they stated in offensive terms. I was originally interested in developing something, but the total lack of communication put me off, especially given the fact there's quite a bit of effort that has to be put in up front. It's no way to do business. I'm no expert on business acumen, but wasting people's time is just plain rude, and making a blatant attempt to get the thread locked as soon as a fair (IMO) criticism is made... well... |
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| @all I represent a publisher myself, and we have currently agreed on 3 games with people on this forum. This thread should be locked. its one of the most unprofesional, rude, pure-nonsense and amateur behavior from "rui". As a publisher "rui" should not use this thread to flame someone who stole (correction : accused of stealing) sourcecode, money etc. Thats a matter for the police, not a forum for Blitzers. On a personal level - and I judge this only by what I read in this thread - I would not trust this company Rui represents. Thats my personal opinion. a company thats not able to be reached, who spends weeks on "nothing", never communicates back, replies or is online on MSN is untrustworthy. I will probably get many angry replies to this post, but I am only trying to help fellow Blitzers to not getting ripped off - in case this is all one big scam |
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| Pot. Kettle. |
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| I have yet to see Hansie be rude, or unprofessional.. he acts like a Chiefy sometimes with his nonsense offtopic posts, but hey, that's fun :) Tracer |
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| Hansie, you bring up good points but to Rui's defence he has asked a 1000 times for this thread to be locked... However, I have to agree with your second to last paragraph at this point.. we will see. If I see some "good faith" I will post it.. but until I do... Skully |
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| I'm not on either 'side' here, and I have no comment at all regarding the situation. I just need to contact Rui, and ATM this seems to be the only place to do it. :) @Rui : I've e-mailed you a couple of times since you've been back and had no response. I sent mail to both of your addresses. One got through, the other returned this : A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: rui@... SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mxcorp.sinos.net [200.160.145.123]: 550 Error: Sinosnet Header Spam RuleUS 54 I haven't been able to catch you on Messenger, so I had to post here. PLEASE contact me ASAP. I still want to work on the project, but I'm at a complete stand-still until you send me the 'stuff'. Cheers. |
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| _Skitchy: I have received your e-mails and have answered them. I felt that you were getting my answers. Actually, I have also been receiving e-mails from Seldon and WolRon and have replyed their e-mails too. But WolRon doesn't seem to be getting the answers. The only person who seems to be receiving the replies is Seldon. Can you guys, specifically: Seldon, WolRon and Skitchy post here whether you are or are not getting my replies? Because I am getting your e-mails. Skitchy: It looks like the e-mail server thinks that you have sent spam... I don't know why, because I got your e-mail on my fwg account. Now, for one thing, I am trying to figure out why all this is happenning, and any help is welcome. But please don't make us waste time reading replies that don't help anyone go anywhere. I am just posting on this thread because I am worried about what's going on. I have sent lots of e-mails during the last couple of days, and the only person who seems o be getting them is Seldon. But, at this point, the answer that I got from Seldon could not be an answer at all... despite it looks like an asnwer to the e-mail that I have sent. For those of you guys who have started with us on the original thread, I am sure you guys rememeber that we have had some free-email-related problems a couple of months ago. I wonder if this is happenning again. All of the e-mails that I am using belong to our companny, so they are not free e-mails. As I told you before, the Java guys down here have very restrictive rules about what kind of e-mail servers are allowed to go through our firewalls and stuff like that. I will check this thread frequently, to see if you guys have received the replies. If not, I will have to figure out what;s wrong. Seldon: You are the only person I think that has been able to receive my replies. But at this point, I am not sure if you really are. I am most inteested to know if you got my e-mails from yesterday/today... Thanks for the understanding, Rui Barbosa Jr. P.S.: To everyone: I am now using this thread, not because I am willing to conduct bussiness here, but because this is the only channel that seems to be working between our companny an the programmers that are working with us at the moment. So, I would ask people not to post here at the momemnt, unless you are willing to help us find out what is gong on and how we can fix it. I am not interested in reading about what a or b thinks about me or the companny. I am using this thread as a real-world tool for helping us to get the official channels working properly, as they did before. Thanks for your understanding. |
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| I haven't received any e-mails. It sounds like there must be a problem at your end somewhere. I am getting other e-mail fine. However, you could try these addresses instead : skitchy<AT>dyvision.co.uk james<AT>skitchy.fsnet.co.uk (replace <AT> with @) Neither are 'free-mail' accounts. |
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| Rui can be reached through this email I know : barbosarui@... By the way, the above email is not a company email account but a "free" account similar to Hotmail |
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| @Rui: I got ONE e-mail from you on 28/01/04 . I replied (you got mine?) and I haven't got any reply so far. @all: I think we should set up a forum (Rui, that's what I wrote on my last reply, btw) on some free server for people involved on this project. I don't think here it's the best place as it's a Blitz forum and we could annoy other people (and they're right). I set up this free forum, please come and talk there: http://pub6.dream-tools.net/tools/messages.mv?index+blitzgamblinggames |
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| BEACON BOY: Yes, it is a FREE e-mail, similar to hotmail but, get this: It is owned by us, see? DO you get the difference? See that nice website? Well, see if you can figure what this means. Yes, we DO own an internet provider. Actualy, a few of them. See the point? FYI: Everyone who has been with us snce the beggining knows that that e-mail server is run by us. So, once again, and I hope that this will be the last time... The forum is here to help people. |
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| I just checked the forum that was set up by Seldon. Thanks, Seldon. We can talk there, untill we have the e-mail problem fixed. But I want to be very clear about one thing: only people who ARE working with BELRO shuld go there. We are not going to tolerate people flaming other people or the companny. At least, I won't. Seldon, I have no idea on how to do this, but it would be great if you could lock the forum, so that only people who actualy is working with BELRO can have access to it. If you know how to do that, please let me know and I will send you a list with the people who can have access to it. Thanks. Ciao, Rui Barbosa Jr. P.S.: TO everyone who is not part of the team... we are not talking here anymore, so feel free to spend your time here, flaming and being useless. Or, if you preffer, go somewhere else, find some other usefull thread and hijack it. GDO what you did here: get in without being invited; make sure that the topic is not related to you in any way; then do exactly what you did... make the forum useless and fill it with posts that won't help people. This will make you happy. And I guess you need that, right? |
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| How comes I can't find any trace of any company called 'Belro', except for a transport firm in Canada? feel free to spend your time here, flaming and being useless. Nobody is flaming you - just making rational observations based on what I see before me.On another note, your little outbursts (like the one above, and several before it) do not help your cause. get in without being invited This is a public forum though for the BLITZ COMMUNITY, whether you like it or not. Nobody in the Blitz community needs your permission to post here.If you don't like that, then don't let the door hit you on the way out. |
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| don't let the door hit you on the way out LOL |
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| @Rui: I'll keep the forum free for a while, so all people involved in the project will join with no delay (otherwise I should check each new member, etc..). Then, after a week or so, I'll delete any member who is not in the list you mentioned (and that you should provide me). In the meanwhile, I'll delete any post that looks like flames or so. |
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| @all On behalf of fellow Blitz users who was insecure about BELRO as a company, I sent Rui an email kindly asking for a company registration ID + details of the company so I could verify its intentions´on behalf of the community. Nothing has been received yet. |
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| http://www.opencores.org/forums/cores/2003/09/00001/reply http://www.compuphase.com/bitboard/index.php?DATEIN=tpc_kzparzlui_1074623539 Rui Barbosa Jr. Florianopolis SC 88085-610 Brazil just of curiosity |
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| Heres another: http://www.compuphase.com/wwwboard/wwwboard2003.htm I don't see how any of these prove anything. We all know that Rui is very knowledgable in what he does and that he is involved with more than just the casino business. I don't know where you got that address (it might even be an old one?). The Rui Barbosa we have been communicating with told us that he is from Rio de Janeiro. You do realize that there are many Rui Barbosa's in Brazil and one of them is a celebrity of sorts. I noticed that there is a street named after him too. Did you find this info... Rui Barbosa Jr. 4/16/2001 3:34:49 PM Florianopolis, SC 88085-610, Brazil Apple has a chance to become number in OSes ! on this website? http://osxonintel.xoverzero.com/view.cfm?letter=B&startrow=301 |
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| Yep, that's where I found the address And of course there are probably MANY with that name. Surely. But as I wrote, just of curiosity. I have no outstanding issues with Rui, I have never spoken or met him. I just find this whole "thing" a bit odd ... |
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| Just out of curiosity.. i'll e-mail a supplier of ours which is located in Brazil and ask them to do a little research on Belro. You guys got me curious now. Tracer |
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| go on there nancy drew |
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| funny how quiet this thread became ... |
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| Hi Folks, Rui Barbosa is the name of one of the most famous brazilian citizens in history. He was known as Haya's Eagle, for his wisdom. That was about two centuries ago. You want more Rui Barbosa Jr.'s? Check in Brazilian's Schools Lists of Studants. It is amazing how many of us you are going to find. Tracer: We could do better than that... Tell your supplier to visit us. Ask Hansie for the address, because I have sent that to him. Your supplier is going be be very welcome. Mre than that, he is going to be impressed on ow big our chain of compannies is. And that would end all of this bull$hit talk. Hansie is asking us to send him our CNPJ number --- now that is very suspicious. What else do you want, Hansie? Why don't you tell people that I DID answer your e-mail. How old are you, Ansie? BTW.: As you don't seem to be very smart, I will try to explain to you why this thread becme so quiet: We are now communication on the form that Seldon has created. Do you understand? Want me to explain it again? Now that you know that there are hundreds of Rui Barbosa Jr's in every single town in Brazil, yes... that one on open-cores is me, too. It s good that you did some research and found out other areas os technical knowledge that I am good at. Very good, by the way. Actualy, more than very good. Tracer: Ask your supplier to visit us. He is going to be welcome. But, I tell you, chances are good that Hansie will start doing some research on you, too... because you are going to look suspicious to him. I just answered this e-mail because I find it very scary to have someone looking for my name on the net --- What else can such person do? Hansie: I am very good at robotics, forth and artificial-intelligence, too. Actualy, I am a Linux expert, too, and have been programming for the playstation 2 for some time now. So, go check if you can find my name on threads related to that, too. Hey, Hansie... I got three houses, too. I work in Rio, and the companny pays all my expesnes... got to be very good to get that from a companny, hu? Also, I have a house in Rio Grande do Sul. And a house in Santa Catarina, too. Santa Catarina is a beautiful Island at the South. So, anything else? TRACER: Please, DO ask your supplier to visit us. Please DO. At least you will know who we are. There is no way you can't keep from getting mad at people like Hansie... what kind of person does the things he is doing? Hansie: If you have any further questions, e-mail me in Person, ok? Now, want to learn something, feel free to ask me, too. Tracer: Give your supplier our number. Or you can e-mail privately and give me their number, and I will be happy to invite them. I can take them to the manufacturing building, to our cool meetings office, etc... Then, I can make the arrangement with the guys in Rio GRande do Sul and Santa Catarina, so your supplier can visit our offices there, too. Let me know if you can fo that. One thing is for sure: none would like to have people like Hansie saying things about yourself, looking for your name the internet, etc... Hansie... what publisher do you reprent? I will have to call them and see what's going on. Cheers, Rui Barbosa Jr. |
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| Rui, I can not take you or your company serious: You wrote : "I have given Hansie my address" Fact : That is a lie. All I have from you is an email telling me basically to "butt out" and leave the thread alone. I can publish this email if required Why is it suspecious asking for your company VAT/registration number? our's is DK-1729 9697. If your company is sincere, you must be publically registrered, right? so tell us your VAT number so people seriously interested in working with you can do research. What you call "suspecious checking" I call sensible research You act, reply and write like a child. Bragging, boasting, getting angry - its all in your mouth, but no action. I wish people on this board would realize something is very wrong here ... I have no reason to email you, I never had. As I mentioned, you wrote an email to ME, telling me to leave the thread alone ... who's the suspecious one? I represent United Coders www.unitedcoders.dk. and you are more than welcome to call - since I am the Founder and Managing Director, I will be VERY happy to have an industry chat with you ;-) Need I say more? wake up community |
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| Rui, Forgot one thing If you are a registrered and certified PlayStation 2 Developer as you write, what is your certification number? And it requires that you have at least launched and published 1 retail product to become certified PS2 developer. What games have you published into retail? United Coders are members of the PlayStation 2 development community, and we checked - no-one, not one single person or Sony representative has ever heard about you or your company. Would you like to explain? Blitzsupport : lock this thread so we can all get down to Blitzing |
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| Founder and Manager director... and has plenty of spare time, he? Actualy, if you care to read the e-mail I have ent to you, you will see that I have sent you the companny's address. Alright, I am acting like a child, that's for sure. I apologize for that. Actualy, I don't think there is any acceptable excuse for my attitude. I just am overwhelmed, and you have been poluting the thread. To the people who are working on games for BELRO, please go to the forum that Seldon has set up. The thing is: People are making mone here. And all this excess of suspicious thoughts can keep good programmers from making money doing what they like the most... creating games. Besides, three people have already quit writting games for us, because of this very thread. Now, everyone who has been with us since the beggining, knows that we had a list of games that had to be completed untill June 5, 2004. Now, thanks to this very thread, I will have to look for three other guys who can write those games. Or will have to write them myself. That's why I am so angry... that's all. I really am sorry for all the confusion. I apologize. And I wish people stop sayig things about me. The "good" news is that we have now three games available. Anyone interested in writting one of those games, please contact me untill next friday... otherwise I will have to write those games myself. Man, you have no idea of how much trouble this simple thread has caused me. I already am a very busy person. Now, having to write and test three games in a 6 months time-frame... that is what drives me mad. Anyway... Everyone who is writting games for BELRO, please use the forum set up by seldon. |
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| Funny, how Rui now avoids every single question asked, and is now one big excuse ;-) Rui, you're a joke. I feel sorry for you, and it takes a LOT to make me write something like that to anyone. You give me no choice. To quote a famous person (who used the word BUTTHEAD): why don't you make like a TREE and LEAVE Rui, I have wasted enough time on you. your scam is over. you're busted. caught in your own web of lies. LOCK THREAD |
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| Still cookin'? |
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| @all Anyone interested in seeing the "one and only" email Rui sent ME are welcome to contact me. As I mentioned, no contact details are in that email as Rui claims. I rest my case and withdraw from this thread |
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| omg... this thread is going infamous. i'm not involved in any way with this but i'm a bit upset with all this s**t here as a blitz community member my 2 cents: this thread has nothing to do with blitz+ coding so if it's not closed it must be moved to off topic... @rui, it's not fair from you to disapear some weeks for vacations without looking the forum and replying to e-mail messages of your 'employees' .it's not professional and not polite too.so i think it's normal to them think you're not serious and that they waste they're time, they spend lots of time to code for you(or you're company) so the last you can do is to inform them about you're going on vacations or everything else made contact with them difficults. who the hell you think you are comin on this forum , telling people they got money from your company then disapear for vacations make them suspicious and coming back with a smile on you're face telling that it was normal, it's summer here...if my boss do that i'll probly show him my finger and tell him to f**k off quick...then i'll go to vacations myself even if it's winter here. you can't harm people that not working for you being suspicious too with you because of this thread staring with you're 'employees' asking about you.and i'm sure on this forum everyone is fine and cool almost of the time trying to help people with code problems or anything else. i don't wan't to harm you .anyway there's no way (unfortunaly) to harm you more than you already did it yourself . the best way to prove everyone that this thread was a big misunderstand, is to produce the numbers hansie is asking, i'm sure if you're a real serious company you must have certificates that can be verified about you're company. @all i'm a blitz basic owner, i tend to be nice replying to the topics i can help with,the better i can say about this one is to follow you're feelings about his deal.i may not be a bad one or it may be a big scan, so take care and be wise. also i'm really apologize for my bad english as here on betelgeuse we use the famous "poisson babel" to traduce the things in other langages... |
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| Ehehehe Rui, chill man :) I have no beef with you, i don't do business with you or anything, but i'd hate to see a lot of people get screwed over you know. One thing that puzzles me, is that you claim to have such a large company, but need to rely on someone else for something as simple as a forum. Tracer |
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| I've been wandering around this thread and the other one for some while... And I've stayed out of it... But Rui, if you can produce some proof positive that your company is, as you say, legit and prove some of your other claims... I'll happily take over one of the other three games. But without proof, I have too much other stuff eating up my time. Kanati |
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| @kanati don't hold your breath! |
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| @rui Now, you stupid wanna-be-programmers, go somewhere learn how easy it is to protect your code That's the statement of a sincere professional ;-) I rest my case You will not be missed, Rui |
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