BlitzPlus and 3D
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| It was considered a neat trick, but an oddity when BlitzPlus was made to work with 3D in OpenGL. I have so much 3D code written for BlitzPlus, including CreateMesh() and matrix commands, that it's tempting to totally forgo Blitz3D and just write my own 3D engine. I have no reason to do this right now, but it is interesting that all the OpenGL features, including per-pixel lighting, are potentially available. |
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| Wouldn't there be a large performance hit if you did so? Just wondering. Do you think Mark has some 3D in mind for a future version of B+? Or just whetting our appetites for BMax when it eventually appears... ;) Russell |
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| B+ IS BlitzMax, as I understand it. There would be no performance hit if you wrote it right. I kind of like the degree of control it allows, but there is a lot of stuff that is a big pain in the ass to figure out. |
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| Write it and sell it. I'd do it myself if I could. But I'd rather just pay for it ;) One thing though - if you do go ahead, try to make everything behave in a similar way to B3D so that the transition is a smooth one. A simple example would be MoveEntity() moving objects a similar 'distance' in both languages. |
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| Why don't you do some speed tests for your OpenGL code, against the same thing in Blitz3D? I'm sure you'll find B3D to be faster... somehow! |
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| I am not going to write any kind of public 3d lib. I'm just saying that there's nothing keeping anyone freom writing a new 3D engine. |
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| Well, we all knew that.... |
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| I wood love to see basic 3d commands in B+ this wood make making editing tools a lot eseyer. and code wood be esaly ported/from to blitz3d/blitzmax(When it is done) unfucntley i dont have the skill or time to have have a go myself or i wood be having a go!! Qcat |
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| hmm i believe Drago is doing this yet |
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| Maybe I'll put an unsupported chunk of code out. I actually like OpenGL rendering better than Blitz3D. You have to write a lot of your own "shell" functions to make useful commands out of the extremely low-level GL commands. However, you have way more control, and with all the Blitz3D stuff I have ended up doing with my own code, it's not that big of a difference. |
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| Yes, I am doing this, and it does require alot of effort, but it is getting there, but I do have a lot left to do though. |
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| Hold on a sec... B+ *IS* BMax? I hope you're wrong about this! (Unless B+ has a lot of serious upgrades coming) Or is BMax going to be B+ with a lot of extra functionality, in the same way that b3d was to b2d? Russell |
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| As I understand it, BMax will be a seperate product, but B+ is being used as the testbed. |
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| Hmm... Hope we don't run into another 'no upgrade discount' debate when BMax comes out :( Russell |
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| Oh, I think we will =] |
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| 'prolly right ;) Anyone have any idea as to how much BMax will go for? I'll put my guess at: $149 - for new purchasers $149 - for owners of Blitz 3D $149 - for owners of Blitz Plus $149 - for owners of Blitz 2D $99 - for owners of Dark Basic Pro - just kidding! (They pay double price ;) Russell |
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| LOL@Russell |
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