BlitzMax questions???
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| I would have posted this in the BMAX boards but I can't create a topic there. (I guess that because I don't own it yet ;) My questions are: 1. Will the PC and Linux versions of BMAX be released before or after the release of the 3D module for BMAX? 2. Will the 3D module be free to existing owners of BMAX when it's released? 3. I am thinking of buying BMAX even though I don't have a MAC just to show my support and appreciation to Mark and the team for the awesome work they've put in. Is there likely to be any disadvantage in doing this (other than not being able to do anything with it), or should I wait until the PC version comes out? 4. Is there going to be a Media (CD/printed manual) release, and how much more is it likely to cost than the Digital Version? Thanks. |
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| I just don't understand all the people without Macs who are buying BMax right now. If you've not used BMax and currently have no way to do so then why buy it? For all you know, BMax could be a slow, clunky, unstable, bug-ridden mess and you might be wasting your money. Buying something that you can't use, sight-unseen reeks of fanboy-ism (is that a word?) to me... Having said that, I would also like to know when the PC version will be released. Couldn't care less about the Linux version. |
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| I bought it for several reasons. A) I'm getting a Mac anyway ... to make Mac games. B) I want to read the docs and use the BlitzMax forums C) I believe in Mark's ability to make a killer new language ... I know people complain about BlitzPlus ... but I could tell from everything Mark said about it that it was basically something to bridge the gap to BlitzMax and use some GUI stuff. I didn't buy that one. BlitzMax has been Mark's goal for a long time and so far it looks great! |
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| 1. before 2. no 3. no disadvantage, our company christmas party will be more the merrier if you purchase now 4. the manual when printed will be available as a separate item |
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| I bought it now... don't have a mac. And did it because I trust mark to put out a good product. (I will choose to forget that blitz+ thing). Kanati |
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| Can I extend some of those questions 1# Will the pc version be out before the end of the year ? 2# I have checked the docs, and there are various parts missing. Two were: - Udp/Tcp networking - SaveImage Are they included in the docs, and in bmax ? 3# Is the win32 module gui commands, or just the simple file requesters and such. ? 4# What about the event based programming that was mentioned ? I saw no mention of it in the docs (and I read the whole thing) 5# Still no proper RenameFile function O_O ???? 6# Can you import more than just functions with extern ? Im buying bmax no matter what, but some of these features are quite important. |
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| Well I guess by Lemorts' standards I must be a FanBoy because I just purchased BMax. Like Kanati, I trust Mark and I'm sure BMax will be everything I'll ever need and more... especially with its new features like OO and function pointers. |
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| Sorry for sounding grumpy before, Akira. I hope that you enjoy your purchase! I will probably be buying BMax too, but I'm going to wait until after the PC version has been released along with a stable 3d engine that supports it. |
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| My question may wasn't formulated very well (it was deleted) but I'd like to know if BM is still on track if Mark gets ill or something like that, or will we be standing with half a product if that should happen ? Are the co-programmers up to it if necessary ? I think it's a relevant question since I'm planning to put money and time into BM. |
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| I think we need a Q and A temp forum. Here's my question: BlitzMax is currently $80, if I wait for the PC version is it still going to cost $80? |
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| What does "Linux" support entail? Will it compile for Linux on any architecture or x86 only? What about required libraries, versions, etc? |
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| I still don't see an UNDO button... |
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| I tested it earlier on pearpc, and it does indeed have multiple undo. It seemed a bit weird though, undoing whole lines at a time. |
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| wedoe: yes sorry, I have a particular distaste for some metaphors; to answer your question, I have been full time employee working on BlitzMax for 6 months now and as well as knowing all the module source very well I am looking forward to getting more experience with the compiler internals with some ARM and MIPS output in the new year. Given just how cheap the US$ is currently it was a bit of a shock to see how many $KIWI we are earning with each sale but we've set the price now, bit of a bargain for European people also I expect. As for the Linux support, yes it will be x86 only to begin with but anything running a recent version of Gnome / KDE I'm sure will be compatible after a few months of contributions from our users (any linux specific source is included so if there is some shonky code I'm sure there will be someone more knowledgable to put us right). I'm not going to spill the beans with any win32 information but hoepefully there are still a few pleasant suprises instore for people... |
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| Not gonna even spill the beans on the udp/tcp matter COUGH. Multiplayer is sort of a vital feature for a games language. I guess it will come at a later date ? |
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| Excellent, thanks for that. |
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| skn3... Though I'm not seeing anything tcp/udp related either... I'm guessing that the stream commands are what are going to handle networking. A language without networking is a show stopper for me (hence why I haven't done much with IBP). I don't write single player stuff. :) |
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| Here's a question: can you put a date to the release of the PC version? |
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| If BlitzMax doesn't have TCP, how was bmk written in it? |
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| skn3... Though I'm not seeing anything tcp/udp related either... I'm guessing that the stream commands are what are going to handle networking. A language without networking is a show stopper for me (hence why I haven't done much with IBP). I don't write single player stuff. :) I realised that, but it just seems odd that it is missing from the docs, and seemingly from bmax. |
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| I'll buy it as soon as the 3d module is out. |
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| M.R.... whassa bmk? |
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| BMK = Blitz Make. Part of the compiler which also has the ability to download modules from the Mod Server via TCP. |
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| I'm looking forward to Blitzmax. It comes out, when it comes out. |
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| Heres a BM question, whats the purpose of having the global identifier in a type?? arn't all fields global to a method anyway? |
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| A method can only act on it's own particular instance of a a type. Global identifier in a type would stop you from modifying a type with a normal function. This seems cleaner to me than the current Blitz. |
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| Just a note to those with queries about networking, there does already appear to be basic network support with socketstream.bmx (from which other networking streams could be derived) and httpstream.bmx |
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| Global identifier in a type would stop you from modifying a type with a normal function. This seems cleaner to me than the current Blitz. how does a global variable in a type deny access to the type? that doesnt make sense. Thinking about it more, I think the global is global to the type interface, not instance. like functions within types are.. This makes sense. |
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| Since we're told that we can compile BlitzMax source on any platform without modification, what's going to happen when I try compiling a game that uses both mouse buttons, on the Mac? How does the Mac version deal with MouseHit(2) (or whatever the BMax equivalent is)? |
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| Well if you know that your game is going to need two mouse buttons then you would have to let your user know in the requirements... The Mac is quite happy using a multi-button mouse, they just don't supply one as standard.. |
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| I believe there is a hot key for mouse 2 on a mac |
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| I'm saying that if you need to specify it to be global that means you have the option. In current Blitz all type information is global. Maybe it is akin to functions and methods ... not really sure because I haven't used it but I don't see why that would make sense ... as opposed to the fact that currently all variables stored in types are global and in BMax you can specify whether it is or is not global ... this is also good if you want to just code straight Blitz (as it's touted you don't need to use OOP) ... you'd need that option. |
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