Ubuntu 11.10 & Xubuntu 12.04
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| I want to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin). What is the difference between the two? Does Xubuntu have that hideous Unity GUI? Which one is more updated for LTS stuff? Which is safer and better? What is the difference between 64bit and 32bit? What processors are supported? How big is the download? Please give some help to this noob! :D |
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| Xubuntu is Ubuntu, but using the Xfce desktop environment and a different application suite optimised for it. So: Does Xubuntu have that hideous Unity GUI? Definitively no: Xubuntu's main feature is the use of a customised Xfce. If it had Unity, it wouldn't be Xubuntu. Which one is more updated for LTS stuff? Which is safer and better? What is the difference between 64bit and 32bit? What processors are supported? Identical to Ubuntu. The non-graphical core is the same. Xubuntu doesn't maintain a separate OS core. How big is the download? I think the Alternate CD (the more minimal one) is around 450MB. You should be able to install Xubuntu "over" Ubuntu for around 200MB. (Try "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop".) You can install as many of the "official" Ubuntu variants (Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, etc.) as you like over the top of Ubuntu and each other, through Synaptic or the Software Centre. Since the differences are limited to UI and the main desktop application suite, they can coexist on one machine (although you might end up with a weird login or startup splash combination as they keep overwriting each other for these). You can choose which Ubuntu to fire up from the login screen. Note that there's also Ubuntu using the GNOME 3 shell, which is not really a variant because it has no applications of its own, but replaces the Unity UI for regular Ubuntu. ("sudo apt-get install gnome-shell") The moral: Ubuntu is flexible. if you don't like the UI, change it. Last edited 2012 |
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| replaces the Unity UI for regular Ubuntu. ("sudo apt-get install gnome-shell") Does this work with the Ubuntu 11.10 stuff? what is to be expected from sudo-ing this? |
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| Does Xubuntu have that hideous Unity GUI? As Yasha says you don't have to live with the default window manager you could even use KDE (the default for Kubuntu) a bit of googling will show you how it can be done. Which one is more updated for LTS stuff? Which is safer and better? What is the difference between 64bit and 32bit? What processors are supported? Basically what Yasha says. The only main difference is with a 64bit the OS can use more that 4GB of memory if you have it installed.But I would give you one word of advice and that is to back up any important files before you do an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 just in case any thing goes wrong it has been know to happen a few times. I would also point out that not all the software gets upgraded which happened to me and as I couldn't be a*sed to sort it out I just reinstalled Ubuntu 12.04 formatting the drive. Also Ubuntu 12.04 caused me a problem on my machine that had a nVidia 8800 Ultra card installed (it would lockup when you clicked any of the dock icons). I had to login using Ubuntu 2D (it's in the logon box just click Ubuntu icon and a menu pops up) and then change the nVidia driver to the experimental version to get it to work. Does this work with the Ubuntu 11.10 stuff? what is to be expected from sudo-ing this? Watch this youtube clip for details.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDXeOsLQ3k Last edited 2012 |
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| What is MATE UI and Cinnamon UI? |
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| What is MATE UI and Cinnamon UI? I believe MATE and Cinnamon are forks of the GNOME window manager. Linux Mint use these as it's default window manager.http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ http://mate-desktop.org/ http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-mint-mate-12-on-ubuntu-1204.html http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-cinnamon-14-on-ubuntu-1204.html Last edited 2012 |
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| http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu There you get some commands to copy/paste (look at the version of ubuntu you use - there are links to 11.10, 11.04, ..). Basically it does: remove all the stuff ubuntu uses, install all the stuff the default xubuntu-installation brings. Afterwards - do not forget to $ sudo apt-get install geany (or use a custom build to integrate monkey and blitzmax highlighting/folding and compilation/debugger ... whatever). Please ask yourself wether you want the XP-style the xfce-environment provides. Although the theme "greybird" makes it look a bit mac-isher some things like "thunar" (the explorer) are a bit differing to "nautilus" (the fat cow of explorers - but with nifty features you have to add to thunar by yourself if you want them :D). If XFCE is not the thing you want - you better move to Linux Mint (but this is a reinstall, not a upgrade) with Cinnamon or Mate. bye Ron Last edited 2012 |
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| Afterwards - do not forget to $ sudo apt-get install geany (or use a custom build to integrate monkey and blitzmax highlighting/folding and compilation/debugger ... whatever). I didn't know you could use GeanyIDE with BlitzMax. How so? Cinnamon or Mate. I like the cinnamon ui :) |
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| I personally really LOVE the Cinnamon UI. It's fast, lightweight, and is just right for people who like the old-fashioned desktop, like me. |
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| Huh, I hadn't heard of Cinnamon before this. Looks very Windowsy. I like it. Not as much as Xfce, but still, pretty nice. |
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| A few links of interest. http://www.gilesorr.com/wm/table.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers http://xwinman.org/ Edit: If you like eye candy then checkout the Enlightenment WM with a few themes. Last edited 2012 |
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final thought: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop |
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| I want to upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to Xubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin). What is the difference between the two? Does Xubuntu have that hideous Unity GUI? Which one is more updated for LTS stuff? Which is safer and better? What is the difference between 64bit and 32bit? What processors are supported? How big is the download? Please give some help to this noob! :D After having used Unity for a while, I got used to it and accepted it as my default UI on Linux. It's usable. But what's more important than that: It is THE standard UI for THE most widely used Linux distribution. The rest doesn't really matter. Most Linux users use Ubuntu (and not one of its many siblings and spawns), and thus most Linux users now use Unity. So from a developer perspective, Unity is the only relevant Linux desktop and the Ubuntu Software Center is the only interesting distribution channel. (Now why do I all of a sudden have such a strange Mac feeling here...?) |
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| It's probably near-impossible to actually measure usage of UIs, but I would have thought GNOME is the one that makes the rules, since 1) Unity, Xfce and most of the other major UIs except KDE copy either its design language, or it directly; and 2) is Ubuntu really more dominant than Debian/Fedora/CentOS etc. once you get off the home desktop? Remember business users are the ones who really control the evolution of productivity apps. (Conversely, games usually don't follow the platform's UI style at all anyway.) |
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